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Old 06-04-2018, 11:02 AM
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Well...this thread was started when someone (author of the first reply of this thread) claimed to have passed all his exams, got caught and then used the lame excuse "I now do them for CPD purposes".

But my question now is, is it technically possible for an actuary to have two SOA specializations? I would imagine the only way to get that would be to write 5 fellowship exams (two-track-specific-5-hour-exams * 2, 4-hour ERM exam).
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I was under the impression that if you have credit for an exam you are in fact not allowed to sit for it again. Not sure where I heard that, and don't see it written down anywhere.
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I just tried to sign up for FM, and the system didn't let me. I don't know if FSAs would be able to sit for other FSA exams, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to. If you're a life FSA looking to move to Health, you should be able to sit for the exam right?
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I just tried to sign up for FM, and the system didn't let me. I don't know if FSAs would be able to sit for other FSA exams, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to. If you're a life FSA looking to move to Health, you should be able to sit for the exam right?
Interesting.

Yeah, I don't really buy the story that an FSA (or someone who has passed all of the FSA exams but potentially not FSA yet) is sitting for FSA exams to get CPD credit.
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Doesn't make sense. The purpose of actually sitting for the exam is to get the credential. If you already have your FSA, there is no point to taking the test. There is a point to studying material from a different track if you start working in that area, but then just take the self-study credit. If you need CPD points in the not-self-study side, then seminars or webinars or relevant meeting sessions, not an exam.
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Doesn't make sense. The purpose of actually sitting for the exam is to get the credential. If you already have your FSA, there is no point to taking the test. There is a point to studying material from a different track if you start working in that area, but then just take the self-study credit. If you need CPD points in the not-self-study side, then seminars or webinars or relevant meeting sessions, not an exam.
The exam itself wouldn't even count for "non-self-study" CE, right?



Unless you count the proctor's instructions as interaction?
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It's a long time since I sat for exams and worried about getting the CE credits for exams, but I vaguely recall that study hours counted as self-study CE, and the actual hours you sat for the test were "organized" hours. That could have changed by now, or my memory could be faulty on the point.
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It's a long time since I sat for exams and worried about getting the CE credits for exams, but I vaguely recall that study hours counted as self-study CE, and the actual hours you sat for the test were "organized" hours. That could have changed by now, or my memory could be faulty on the point.
matches my memory. and organized exam seminars were organized hours as well.
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