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Old 06-04-2018, 01:02 PM
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That's such bs...
raises are done on a percentage so there is compounding here that a bonus can't possibly address.
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Update: I did speak with my manager again about this and it seems like it is just a silly HR rule and they made a mistake by not waiting to promote until after the evaluation date. Luckily it is a minor amount anyways and not worth causing a big fuss over. Also, I was told that he would try to make up the difference in an extra bonus at the end of year. Thanks for the responses.
How big is your department and how often are people being promoted?

Just checking to see if this was an honest mistake or they are seriously trying to penny pinch.
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:26 PM
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How big is your department and how often are people being promoted?

Just checking to see if this was an honest mistake or they are seriously trying to penny pinch.
30-50 people and not sure about frequency of promotions. I do think it is an honest mistake, my manager and I have a decent rapport so I believe he would have told me or hinted if otherwise.
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I have a question for the AO regarding this situation:

I recently received a promotion and was given a % based raise about a month before my performance evaluation. Given my performance evaluation, I was set to receive an additional X% raise, but have been told that since I recently got promoted I would be receiving a prorated raise of only X%/12 (for the 1 month).

Is this standard? I was told this was an HR rule and my manager was genuinely apologetic regarding the timing.
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You should look for a new employer asap.
What if the net salary progression is still competitive despite this particular prorating policy? If you are aware of the policy, then just make sure that any promotion raise bakes in whatever you would expect for that portion of a year's performance raise.

Whether it's official policy or not, there are a lot of companies where there is broad understanding that, all else being equal, it is best to wait until right after bonus time to transfer internally. There are a few different types of HR/compensation policy that may play into that, but the overall effect is often similar. Just be as aware of the landscape as you can IMO.
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What if the net salary progression is still competitive despite this particular prorating policy? If you are aware of the policy, then just make sure that any promotion raise bakes in whatever you would expect for that portion of a year's performance raise.

Whether it's official policy or not, there are a lot of companies where there is broad understanding that, all else being equal, it is best to wait until right after bonus time to transfer internally. There are a few different types of HR/compensation policy that may play into that, but the overall effect is often similar. Just be as aware of the landscape as you can IMO.
Agreed - and without giving too much information regarding the company and location I am my manager's first and only direct report along with additional new senior management. He did admit this was their mistake timing wise and said for future promotions this won't be an issue.
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I'm glad I don't (and haven't) worked for a company like that. Sounds like HR is running things, but doesn't really have any idea what's going on.

well, for the record, every few years, they would "true up" the actuarial folks to make up for this bs, and they tried to coordinate it with your annual review/raise to prevent the problem.
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What if the net salary progression is still competitive despite this particular prorating policy? If you are aware of the policy, then just make sure that any promotion raise bakes in whatever you would expect for that portion of a year's performance raise.

Whether it's official policy or not, there are a lot of companies where there is broad understanding that, all else being equal, it is best to wait until right after bonus time to transfer internally. There are a few different types of HR/compensation policy that may play into that, but the overall effect is often similar. Just be as aware of the landscape as you can IMO.
Um, that's his solution to everything.
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Come to our company, we haven't had a non-exam raise since 2015!
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