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Old 06-12-2018, 11:35 PM
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Are you talking about "work spouses"? That's what this sounds like.

If not, then you need to just say what you mean.
Sorry for being so vague.
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Yes of course. Taken literally I have no objection. Unless Im misremembering what I wrote, when I said that in the other thread I was referring to people who would describe themselves as Straight Shooters, not afraid to speak their mind no matter what the consequences, Etc. People are very rarely like this.
OK, that makes sense.
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Sorry for being so vague.
Can you please write a guide on how to handle ambiguity? Thanks!

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so in other words you work with a bunch of phony people. I hate that.
Nah, they're really like that. At least most of them.

The company I work for just naturally attracts a different sort of folk. It's not an insurance company, so maybe it doesn't apply.

But you never know, someone here may leave insurance one day.

Edit: When I left my last job, I got an email from someone I distantly worked with (think showed up at same meetings, but didn't actively do the same work) that they thought it was a good fit for my personality. I'm not sure it was a compliment.
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Yes of course. Taken literally I have no objection. Unless Im misremembering what I wrote, when I said that in the other thread I was referring to people who would describe themselves as Straight Shooters, not afraid to speak their mind no matter what the consequences, Etc. People are very rarely like this.
IMO, a "Straight Shooter" is usually someone who is looking for a very specific kind of cover, in order to make a very specific kind of comment. They are not really honest-- they are selectively acerbic... Which can be useful sometimes.
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Listen, I don't mean to be rude but this is not at all what I am talking about. I am talking about if a man and a woman in the office spend a lot of time together alone, in the lunchroom, at each other's desks, taking walks around the office or around the business park or whatever. it becomes obvious, people notice it, people talk about it, people spread rumors and make assumptions. I thought I was being clear but maybe I need to work on my own communication skills because I don't know how to be any more clear than that.
This makes sense. I'm about to be the only male in the office (~9 females) and was starting to wonder if I could talk to anyone.
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If your email actually warrants more than a couple of paragraphs then you need to open with some comment like please read this entire thing, this pertains to you, you freaking dumbass so read it because I know you have the attention of a goldfish so read this whole email because there's shit that you need to do. Of course you will can only say that if you are some kind of a boss, otherwise keep the email short because the higher-ups don't want to read your long-ass bullshit.
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Think of everything that you do as building a brand.
I want to expand on this a bit btw.

If you are writing something important-- then take your f***ing time.

Writing is something that you can improve with work. If you try hard enough, you can almost always find better words. You can add bullets and white-space, you can underline numbers, you can rewrite sentences, you can remove fluff. You can add depth. You can add flow. Good writing is an art (yeah, duh) and the fact that you are not an artist just means you have to try that much harder.

If nothing else, see if you can say the same thing with fewer words. (Though that doesn't mean you should eschew humor and politeness, Thanks!) Just ask if your email sounds better without this or that sentence.



How do you know something is "important"?
-The value of the time of the people looking at it. (ie. their combined salaries.)
For the love of God, don't just send the COO a missive you wrote in 10 seconds. Make it perfect.

-The amount of hours you spent working on the project.
Likewise, if you spent 20 hours on a project, then spend at least a half-hour dollying up the deliverable. Add graphs and well formatted tables.
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This makes sense. I'm about to be the only male in the office (~9 females) and was starting to wonder if I could talk to anyone.
No, you can't.

In reality, it can be a very fine line. Almost as if you should have a witness to each conversation.

Oh, and congrats on getting your private bathroom.
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Can you please write a guide on how to handle ambiguity? Thanks!

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..... It helps if you just ignore all of his ellipses.......
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Nah, they're really like that. At least most of them.

The company I work for just naturally attracts a different sort of folk. It's not an insurance company, so maybe it doesn't apply.

But you never know, someone here may leave insurance one day.

Edit: When I left my last job, I got an email from someone I distantly worked with (think showed up at same meetings, but didn't actively do the same work) that they thought it was a good fit for my personality. I'm not sure it was a compliment.


Personally, I would advise being slightly bubbly in your communication. I generally agree with TDA's advice on brevity, but these little things can help you communicate much harsher messages with significantly less friction. I may only need 2 sentences to communicate something, but I will use 4-5 if it means the difference between correctly calling someone out or a blame-free option. I've found I get what I need out of people faster this way, which means less communication in the long term: the ultimate goal.
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