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Old 05-24-2018, 03:22 PM
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For the past few years, the CIA has been granting exemptions for students passing courses with certain grades at certain universities. The sky has not fallen. I wouldn't call it a hot button issue at the moment, but it may flare up if there are more attempts to expand the scope.
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The argument against that POV is always, "If it's so much harder, then just sit for the 3 hour exam to validate that." If taking the course really prepares you to a greater extent than studying for the exam, you should need almost zero additional effort to pass the exam.
Which I somewhat agree with. The obvious negative being that you are making people take an exam they really don't need to take costing them money they may or may not have at the time (students already struggle enough). Maybe the alternative to straight passing people would be for the SOA to provide one free attempt at the exam if the person has taken the course equivalent.

They should easily pass and the downside of skipping the exam is gone. If they fail then clearly the course did not provide them with enough knowledge to pass the exam.

The main reason I pointed out what I did in my first post was because someone already mentioned that it makes ASA easier to get. While that might be true, in the sense that more people pass slightly sooner, I do not believe it waters down the ASA talent wise.

Again, not sure how many people actually take advantage of this in Canada. I know when I went through profs basically said to ignore it because opinions on it were constantly flip flopping and one year the exemption might be there and the next it might not be. edit: To clarify this would be in regards to whether or not the class would qualify for the exemption or not.
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The first thing good I've seen in this thread.
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You can't get ASA or FSA via the UAP. You can only get ACIA and FCIA, the Canadian "equivalent" (which may or may not translate into ACAS and FCAS through mutual recognition, idk/idc)
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The argument against that POV is always, "If it's so much harder, then just sit for the 3 hour exam to validate that." If taking the course really prepares you to a greater extent than studying for the exam, you should need almost zero additional effort to pass the exam.


From an employer's perspective, a candidate with Prozzak's attitude is a red flag.
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From an employer's perspective, a candidate with Prozzak's attitude is a red flag.
what? red flag? wth?

he wrote the prelims and was just providing a genuine comparison from his perspective, no? if anything, it was a humble brag of the difficulty of his university's actuarial program.
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I not getting why it should be free to take the exam for these people. They aren't more hard pressed for money than an American student who probably pays more in tuition
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