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Has the SOA ever considered crowdsourcing their experience studies?
Instead of the SOA creating the next mortality table update - they could make it a contest on kaggle. Would be neat to see what non-actuaries come up with.
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Like, left-handed mortality is higher than right-handed mortality?
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FWIW, there are a few mortality datasets on kaggle:

https://www.kaggle.com/IHME/us-countylevel-mortality

https://www.kaggle.com/nhs/tobacco-use

https://www.kaggle.com/guidiego/mort...projection-who

https://www.kaggle.com/rajanand/mortality

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Am aware of this.
Was asking if the SOA has considered crowdsourcing as opposed to using SOA volunteers/consultants for creating their tables?
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I am not sure what you think the kaggle crowd will add to normal approaches to building mortality tables.

It's not like the data sets that the SOA receives from insurance companies (or pension plans) are particularly rich in dimensionality.
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I am not sure what you think the kaggle crowd will add to normal approaches to building mortality tables.

It's not like the data sets that the SOA receives from insurance companies (or pension plans) are particularly rich in dimensionality.
structured settlements are

and if not mortality - there are plenty of other types of studies the SOA takes part in that would be
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Am aware of this.
Was asking if the SOA has considered crowdsourcing as opposed to using SOA volunteers/consultants for creating their tables?
I don't have any special insight into the decision-making process, but I suspect that even if they considered it, they promptly rejected it.
1. Some of the SOA decision makers are "fuddy=duddies." Many years ago when I was studying credibility and some other CAS ideas, I wanted to mortality study people to consider applying some of their techniques - particularly where data were sparse, such as high attained ages and high duration data on smoker/nonsmoker/preferred categories. Maybe I didn't do a good job of making a case for it, but in any case :crickets:
2. Life insurance decision makers are also in the same category. They don't want shiny new stuff - just don't trust it like the tried-and-true.
3. In collecting and administering intercompany data, the SOA promises total anonymity to participating companies. As I recall, even the people at MIB who do the work on running the mortality studies are kept in the dark about what companies contributed what data. I suspect that there would be a big issue with the SOA letting such data (even anonymized) be out there on the web for anybody (competitors, for instance) to see.


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there was a pretty neat mortality presentation at a Val Act awhile ago by Waterloo University maybe?

that was pretty neat
so this would be similar
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