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It really isn't. It's learning about an opening/getting an interview via personal connections. From the interview to the job, it's all on you and your qualifications and presentation skills. People with openings tend to appreciate having someone vouch that a candidate is really interested in the job and is not an axe murderer. But they are highly unlikely to actually HIRE you based on such a recommendation unless the recommending person is in the same field and has worked with you extensively, which is rarely the case.
This. In large corporate settings, the days of the straight up handshake job offer are largely a thing of the past. It still happens here and there, but it's not like it was 50 years ago (from what I've gathered from admittedly thin data on what life was like when dinosaurs roamed the earth).
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I think you should also talk to your non-actuarial personal or professional connections about recruiters they've worked with in the past and would recommend. I've had success with finding non-actuarial recruiters this way (not so much through cold searching, actuarial recruiting is a lot easier to find.)
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Because it's getting a job through personal connections, instead of merit. Which is obviously somewhat of a skewed perception, because if your connections know you, then they probably know about the quality of your work better than a stranger interviewing you but...
not to pile on, but I suspect what you're uncomfortable about may also be that it doesn't feel fair to get opportunities through personal connections not available to others. in which case I'd refer you to this classic AO post from well before my time (about exams, but applicable here)
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Because I'm one of those poorly socialized actuaries who think of it as cheating.
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Because I'm one of those poorly socialized actuaries who think of it as cheating.
I've never understood this thought process. Do you think it is cheating to use a recruiter because you "didn't find the job yourself"?
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Because I'm one of those poorly socialized actuaries who think of it as cheating.
You do realize that this thread is a form of networking, right?
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