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Old 02-13-2018, 12:16 PM
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fwiw, I work about 42 weeks @ 40 hours and about 10 weeks at 50-60 hours. That includes about 5 or 6 weekends a year and maybe 4 'working till midnight' a year.

Never more than 3 long weeks at a time, so there is typically a chance to catch your breath here. Also we know when long weeks are coming well in advance and can plan our personal lives around them. This is the best system I have worked in during my short career. Plus points for having a boss that understands work/life balance; bad boss = bad job imo.
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If you get no particular satisfaction from your work, your goal should be to work the minimum possible to maintain the lifestyle you seek. So, anything above about 30 is pushing it.
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fwiw, I work about 42 weeks @ 40 hours and about 10 weeks at 50-60 hours. That includes about 5 or 6 weekends a year and maybe 4 'working till midnight' a year.

Never more than 3 long weeks at a time, so there is typically a chance to catch your breath here. Also we know when long weeks are coming well in advance and can plan our personal lives around them. This is the best system I have worked in during my short career. Plus points for having a boss that understands work/life balance; bad boss = bad job imo.
You get no vacation? That sucks.
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I wouldnt want to work anywhere that requires more than 40 on a regular basis.
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You haven't actually said how long the hours you're working are though.....
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I'm surprised no one has said it, but the answer to this question really is 42.
But really, the answer is not a number of hours. It's about the entire situation, and hours is just one element of it.
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The last two months have been insane at my job so I understand where you are coming from.

I was pushing 60hrs/week which for the UK is a hell of a lot.

If you continue to be in the 50+ range then it is more than likely that your dept. is under-resourced.

They are essentially profiting from sucking up some of your free time.

If need be, ask for time off en lieu (TOIL) if you are going over the standard hours significantly during busy periods. This is what I have been doing.
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If need be, ask for time off en lieu (TOIL) if you are going over the standard hours significantly during busy periods.
Is that like a formal thing, that's tracked and such? No such thing in US that I've seen, although I think it's totally normal to have people do this, just not formal.

I had a written agreement between one former employee (just between the two of us) that she would agree not to take sick or vaca unless truly urgent during certain weeks and months, she would also work late as need (which was expected) and she would also get two extra weeks of vacation that we wouldn't put into the HR system - because there's no way to increase that allocation in the HR system or do anything else outside of the prescribed package (which is normal in the US I think).
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Is that like a formal thing, that's tracked and such? No such thing in US that I've seen, although I think it's totally normal to have people do this, just not formal.

I had a written agreement between one former employee (just between the two of us) that she would agree not to take sick or vaca unless truly urgent during certain weeks and months, she would also work late as need (which was expected) and she would also get two extra weeks of vacation that we wouldn't put into the HR system - because there's no way to increase that allocation in the HR system or do anything else outside of the prescribed package (which is normal in the US I think).
Yes, we have policies in regards to TOIL. Max of 12 days TOIL in any 12 month rolling period. You put it into the HR systems just like you would with vacation, but you have to essentially agree with the higher ups on how much you get relative to the extra hours worked. i.e. if you put in 100 extra hours, and you have say 7.5 in a standard day, with TOIL you might get 5 days off extra (37.5% of the total). Usually falls between 30-50% of the extra hours worked.
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do they? i think it varies with them too and i'm guessing they also are unhappy about it.
When I complain about working 60 hours in my "light" weeks, several of my non-actuary friends seem unsympathetic. To them, that's what it takes to be paid well.
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