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Old 09-28-2006, 03:53 PM
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In a couple of the sales position interviews I've had I was asked if I golfed. It didn't seem to be a requirement but probably something useful.
To me this would be an illegal interview question and shouldn't have any bearing on whether you get the job or not.
I agree. BUT, if there are 2 identically qualified candidates, one is an avid golfer, the other has never held a club and the boss is a big golfer, the golfing candidate probably gets the job 9 times out of 10. I know a guy who got a summer job because he played a lot of baseball growing up and the company had a team in a very competitive softball league. Is it fair? Probably not. But I would be surprised if it didn't happen pretty regularly.

[edit: I feel like I need to point out that the guy was in fact totally qualified for the position, but so were 30 other candidates.]
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Why would that be an illegal question?
Its a sales position. What if 90% of their deals were done on the golf course wouldn't it seem important that the candidate golfed?
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In a couple of the sales position interviews I've had I was asked if I golfed. It didn't seem to be a requirement but probably something useful.
To me this would be an illegal interview question and shouldn't have any bearing on whether you get the job or not.

And what in the world would be illegal about that. It may in fact be a requirement of the job, to entertain on the golf course.

Mb beat me to it. So I'll just add, that sometimes I'm amazed at the naivete of some actuarial folks about the real world. Golfing, going out with collegues, are part of the job.
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Mb beat me to it. So I'll just add, that sometimes I'm amazed at the naivete of some actuarial folks about the real world. Golfing, going out with colleagues, are part of the job.
Why is this so amazing? Take a quick look-around at actuaries you know.
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Also important to know:
1. When to pick up the ball and move on.
2. When to stop looking for the ball out-of bounds.

Big question for U.L.: how much more money do you want to make?
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2. When to stop looking for the ball out-of bounds.

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I wonder if there are ever any other "social" activities that would be acceptable for schmoozing with clients?

My preferred schmooze activity, a long time ago, was 8-ball and beer. Or what about bowling?

If the clients like being in the great outdoors, why not a hike or rock-climbing?

I just don't get the allure of golf. My uncles have been execs at IBM, and I know all of them golf - but they golfed before they were execs. And my aunt (their sister) also became an exec, yet never golfed. So I guess it really depends on what kind of client base you have. Perhaps certain clients would like to go around an art museum and then to a nice restaurant after.
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I wonder if there are ever any other "social" activities that would be acceptable for schmoozing with clients?

My preferred schmooze activity, a long time ago, was 8-ball and beer. Or what about bowling?

If the clients like being in the great outdoors, why not a hike or rock-climbing?

I just don't get the allure of golf. My uncles have been execs at IBM, and I know all of them golf - but they golfed before they were execs. And my aunt (their sister) also became an exec, yet never golfed. So I guess it really depends on what kind of client base you have. Perhaps certain clients would like to go around an art museum and then to a nice restaurant after.
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