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View Poll Results: Do you agree or disagree with that statement?
Yes, I agree with that statement. FAP would be good for the CAS. 23 22.33%
No, I disagree with that statement. FAP would be bad for the CAS. 69 66.99%
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Ummmmm no.... High quality candidates don't look for rigorous challenges. They go to bars 5 days a week and dinner parties the other 2. They don't like to do nerdy things like math or statistics. They don't like to memorize useless things like how to calculated an LDF factor. Right now we are just getting a ton of low quality candidates that pretend to be smart cuz they have nothing better to do but study all day.

Why would anyone become an actuary when you can become a brain surgeon in the same amount of time?
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What released exams are examples of this kind of new critical thinking besides the aforementioned Exam 6, which I didn't think was that great an example?
I am also a little skeptical, but one possible piece of evidence is that the CAS appears to be accepting multiple answers on essay questions more often (compare sample solutions from 2004 and prior to 2005 and subsequent, at least on 5-7 -- of course they may have been doing this all along and just changed their philosophy on publishing solutions).
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there are some concepts that can only be tested through validation of memorization.
That's true. Sometimes I ask myself, "how would I test this?" And often, there is no better way than "name three characteristics of X." But for it to work properly, you must award points in those (admittedly rare) cases where the answers are correct but different than the text verbatim. Especially when the text on the syllabus is obviously dated, and many candidates are exposed to better ideas in the workplace. A good grader (Fellow) would certainly be on top of that!

If the CAS counters that they do award points in those cases, the typical candidate would be skeptical since the exams are never handed back to the candidates! ($1 to Dr. Kris @ ISU)
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I am also a little skeptical, but one possible piece of evidence is that the CAS appears to be accepting multiple answers on essay questions more often (compare sample solutions from 2004 and prior to 2005 and subsequent, at least on 5-7 -- of course they may have been doing this all along and just changed their philosophy on publishing solutions).

Oops. Posted before I read that ^^^^.

Yeah. What he said! Plus, give us our exams back you jerks! Done.
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Or at least give us a friggan grade if we pass!
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Or at least give us a friggan grade if we pass!
yea I wanna know my score...
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