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Old 05-28-2019, 04:59 PM
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have you considered kratom? i know some people who use it as a pre-bedtime relaxant. it can be habit forming at higher doses, but small doses as a sleep aid seem safe enough. wouldn't suggest long term use, but might help with adjusting your schedule
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I usually pop a few ephedrine + caffeine in the morning if I havent gotten enough sleep. Works like a charm.
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Oh yep, I've done lots of meditation. Even 70-minute hypnosis videos on youtube. I get odd sensations from being in a state of trance but it doesn't do a lot for sleep.
Are you watching these videos before trying to sleep?
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I usually pop a few ephedrine + caffeine in the morning if I havent gotten enough sleep. Works like a charm.
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Are you watching these videos before trying to sleep?
Listening.
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Still very much legal in Canada though. 8mg per pill only though.
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have you considered kratom? i know some people who use it as a pre-bedtime relaxant. it can be habit forming at higher doses, but small doses as a sleep aid seem safe enough. wouldn't suggest long term use, but might help with adjusting your schedule
Ohhhhhh no. Stay far away. I read tons of anecdotes on reddit and while most seem fine, some get really bad withdrawals from seemingly small doses.

A buddy of mine (holistic health nerd) tried to get me to try some - it is the most horrific taste I have ever tasted. I gagged too hard and spat it out.

CBD is probably better as a general relaxant. I know, taboo yada yada. It works, okay?
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I use low dose trazadone (100mg) to fall asleep when I can't get to sleep. Works really well and does not leave you with the usual sleeping pill hangover (ambien is terrible for this).
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MM, the risk is real, but probably not high for low dose, limited time use. i bet you can horror stories with self reporting of any med or supplement. check the list of possible side effects of just about every medication and you'll find nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, listed. but you are right - there is some risk

it is available in capsule form

and to be clear, i'm in no way advocating for kratom use. just tossing out the idea for consideration, but it's clearly not for you. anyway, i hope you find something that works for you. it can be depressing to be in an extended period of poor and/or inadequate sleep

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I’m like the OP. I usually sleep very well. But once every week or so I just have a super crappy night of sleep and I’m worthless at work, especially in the afternoon. My general strategy has always been to find something on my to do list that isn’t super challenging. Maybe clean up emails or organize the office. But there are also times when I need to get something difficult done. For me, coffee doesn’t help but I’m someone who can totally recharge with a 30 minute nap, and it won’t impact my sleep that night. Of course it’s hard to nap at work. Even if you go out to your car on a nice day. Because if someone sees you, the optics on that are awful. Now that I’m WFH it’s not a problem and I don’t worry about the occasional crappy night, because I can just crash for 30 minutes after lunch and have a killer good afternoon

But I try not to nap unless my body really needs it. Other keys are exercise, no caffeine after breakfast, dark cool room
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