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View Poll Results: was a witness present?
yes: I'm male, and so was the doctor 0 0%
yes: I'm male, the doctor was female 1 2.78%
yes: I'm female, and so was the doctor 1 2.78%
yes: I'm female, the doctor was male 2 5.56%
no: I'm male, and so was the doctor 15 41.67%
no: I'm male, the doctor was female 3 8.33%
no: I'm female, and so was the doctor 6 16.67%
no: I'm female, the doctor was male 1 2.78%
it was a teaching hospital so a student was there for their benefit, not necessarily as a witness 2 5.56%
this question doesn't quite fit my situation. (nonbinary, brought my medical proxy, etc.) 0 0%
42 interns all crowded the room 5 13.89%
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I assume you mean a chaperone vs someone observing in a learning capacity?

Traditionally, female health care providers aren't required to have a chaperone present during exams that involve "private parts", regardless of the patient's gender, unless the patient requests one. However, male providers are required to have a female chaperone present if the exam involves touching or exposing a female patient's breasts or genitals.

I know of a pediatric hospital that requires a chaperone for exams involving examination of genitals, regardless of gender of provider or patient. The chaperone may or may not be the same gender as the patient, at least for a male patient. I have a hard time imagining a situation being allowed with a male provider, male chaperone, and female patient.
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I assume you mean a chaperone vs someone observing in a learning capacity?
Yes, that's why I separated out students into a different bucket.

My male doctor (GP) suggested three options for my pap smear: He could do it, he could ask one of the (female) nurse practictioners in the group to do it, or I could see an obstetrician. I had some other questions and ended up seeing the obstetrician (who always has a student in tow) but I don't think he would have brought a chaperone in the room if he'd done it? He's done some of my breast exams without a chaperone.
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Not sure a male situation in comparable. A prostate exam in a couple of seconds and not much more the Dr can do then what is being done. A hernia check is "personal" as well.

If there is a witness I would assume it would be during the whole exam.

Also, assuming the witness would be the same gender as the patient, how rare would it be to have male nurse in a doctors office? and personally, I wouldn't want another person in there.
There are a lot more male nurses these days, my doctor's office has one. I think a lot of people, men and women, are going the NP/PA route rather than medical school now.
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There are a lot more male nurses these days, my doctor's office has one. I think a lot of people, men and women, are going the NP/PA route rather than medical school now.
My doctor is a sole practitioner, so maybe 3 people in the office.
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Jaspess went with me last time, but out of support and medical interest, not as a witness.
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Sure, add hernia exams to prostate exams. And maybe breast exams to gyn exams.

I agree that this situation might be different for men and women, that's why I asked separately for men's and women's experience. But the typical gyn exam is really quick, too. They shove in a metal or plastic "spreader", jam a long Q-tip up to take a swab of fluid and loose cells to test for cervical cancer, and pull everything out. They don't really spend much time "looking" at anything. A good exam will also feel up the ovaries, which is sort of uncomfortable, but it's quick and not very "personal".
Don't forget the every-couple-of years rectal probe to feel the backside of the uterus. That's always a joy.
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That happened to my mom. I mean, not exactly that, but she had an unusual presentation of a disease, and all the interns training in the hospital came through to examine her and ask her about it.
I've been there. I had an injury in high school that damaged some tendons, so my entire femur would dislocate from my knee if you pulled on it. The doctor had never seen anything like it... so he left and came back with several other doctors so they could all ooh and aah over it. It was weird.
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However, male providers are required to have a female chaperone present if the exam involves touching or exposing a female patient's breasts or genitals.
I don't know if this is universally true. It might vary by state or by provider policy. I had some uterine troubles when I was younger, which involved several visits and exams with my surgeon (who was male) and there was never anyone present except him.
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Jaspess went with me last time, but out of support and medical interest, not as a witness.
Also probably to internally laugh at your discomfort. Maybe not... but that's why I went with my husband when he needed a rectal exam. But he thinks it was just for support, because he was freaked out by the idea of the doctor going spelunking and a family history of polyps.
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