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Old 01-31-2013, 11:37 PM
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water, for God's sake you've mentioned this at least five times before.

Get over your fear of rejection and apply aggressively. If this helps, I'm a nerdy Asian, had fewer exams than you, and I applied to 30 places and got 2 offers. You are going to have to face the fact that you'll be rejected several times before you get a permanent position. If you don't apply, interview, and make mistakes, and fix them, you'll never improve, and you'll never get a job.
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water, for God's sake you've mentioned this at least five times before.

Get over your fear of rejection and apply aggressively. If this helps, I'm a nerdy Asian, had fewer exams than you, and I applied to 30 places and got 2 offers. You are going to have to face the fact that you'll be rejected several times before you get a permanent position. If you don't apply, interview, and make mistakes, and fix them, you'll never improve, and you'll never get a job.
You are right. I think I have some rejection sensitivity and always feel badly when I get turned down from a job.
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I got sent home less than 5 minutes into the interview because I couldn't come up with good answers to the interviewers' questions.
less than 5 minutes? Wow, you must be really terrible. And that b**rd could't hang in there for a little longer, at least as a courtesy to you? Wow, you must be really terrible. How do you do it? Teach me dude.
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water, for God's sake you've mentioned this at least five times before.

Get over your fear of rejection and apply aggressively. If this helps, I'm a nerdy Asian, had fewer exams than you, and I applied to 30 places and got 2 offers. You are going to have to face the fact that you'll be rejected several times before you get a permanent position. If you don't apply, interview, and make mistakes, and fix them, you'll never improve, and you'll never get a job.
I would have never guessed. The surprises of lurking the AO everyday blows my mind.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:22 AM
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I would have never guessed. The surprises of lurking the AO everyday blows my mind.
That's probably because he isn't. He has to be because he said it? The surprises of lurking the AO everyday blows my mind.
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How can I get past the interviewer's or resume reviewer's negative perception of me whenever I apply for a job? Based on my background, like how I have not been able to get into the actuarial field, or how I did not have any extracurricular activities during college, they always label me as "nerdy Asian kid", "socially awkward", "not going to fit in here", "anti social nerd weirdo". I can never get past the interview and get a job because of this. I have only worked a long series of temp jobs that don't require an interview because I can never get hired for a permanent position.

But I feel like I have always been well-liked at all my jobs and got along well with everyone. For example, at my last temp job at an insurance company where I worked for over half a year, I would always go out with co-workers for lunch and bullshit during the day about sports or whatever. Finally, one day they had a full-time opening available. The full-time position was the same position I had, only permanent. The boss, "Mary", scheduled a meeting with me and asked me if I was interested in the full-time position and I said yes, and she said something like, "Okay, we'll go through the interview process and then start additional training." Why would she tell me about the job and ask me if I was interested if I am all of those things?

Then, during the week and a half that they were doing interviews, one of the days when "Mary" and one of my co-workers "Jane" came back to their desks after doing an interview, "Jane" sent me an IM (Jane sat just 10 feet away from me), "water, I don't mean to be pushy, but did you apply for the full-time position? I don't blame you if you don't want the job. We're finishing up the interviews this week, and "Mary" said she is going to make a decision by the end of the week. I asked her about you and she said she never received your application." If I am all of those negative things and I don't "fit in here", I don't understand why she would even send me that message and asked if I had applied.

Finally, during my last week they threw a big brunch for me and a bunch of people brought in some food and one of my other co-workers brought in a pancake machine to make pancakes, then they gave me a card extolling how much they liked me being there. Additionally, a few weeks prior to that, "Mary" ordered pizza for the department during a meeting because she said the "team" had received several kudos. But then, during the meeting, all the kudos were only for me by customers (both internally and externally) who had pointed out my good performance. I feel like they would not do this for me if I were not a good employee or did not fit in around there.

Also, the reason why I did not apply for the position is because I know when they interviewed me it would reveal how I really am and they would think lesser of me. Like at one of my past interviews, I got sent home less than 5 minutes into the interview because I couldn't come up with good answers to the interviewers' questions. I feel like I always fit in well when I am actually on the job but the interviewers and resume reviewers always look down on me when I apply for a job or go to interview.
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The most important lesson in life is that the worst thing anyone can tell you is 'no'. They can't take your birthday away.
That's what I thought too but boy, was I wrong. That's why now I always carry with me my long form birth certificate in my wallet. Only the long form. It's pretty long but I squeeze it in there anyways. And my college records and appications.
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Also, the reason why I did not apply for the position is because I know when they interviewed me it would reveal how I really am and they would think lesser of me. Like at one of my past interviews, I got sent home less than 5 minutes into the interview because I couldn't come up with good answers to the interviewers' questions. I feel like I always fit in well when I am actually on the job but the interviewers and resume reviewers always look down on me when I apply for a job or go to interview.
The interview would reveal how you really are? Quite the opposite. Working with you for several months gives them a better idea of who you are. If they like you and know you work well, then the interview was probably just a formality, perhaps a company policy. Do you really think people who have known you for 6+ months would suddenly and drastically change their opinions of you because they found out that you weren't president of your university's ultimate frisbee league?

Being a poor interviewer, it sounds like you were in the perfect situation. Even if the interview didn't go well, there's a strong chance that they would have hired you anyway because they would have realized that you're simply not a good interviewer. So what if you're not a good interviewer? The point of the interview is to try to figure out if the candidate will be able to do the job. And they already knew that you could.
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I lost count on how many thread Water created about the same issue. Anyway, if people asked you to apply, and you don't, you just lose the job. And besides, this kind of interview is just a HR work. As long as you apply, they give you the job. You are so weird to think that they would dig deep inside you to find out your weakness. With your personality, it is so hard to get a job. Even if you get one, it is just hard for you to advance.
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