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Old 11-09-2005, 10:16 AM
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If he were smart enough to pass, he "were" smart enough to not give out his real name. Unless his real name was Mister Cash.
Nice "Black Sheep" reference...

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Eating during your bathroom break is definitely not cheating, although I guess bringing food into the exam room is against the rules. I've done it though, but I've always finished before the start time. I think the main purpose of the no food rule is to keep you from distracting other candidates. A coworker has a horror story involving skittles flying across his test paper during the exam (causing a huge distraction/disruption) and getting a 5 on the exam.
this is in line with the closest I've gotten to "cheating"... I took a bathroom break, found a vending machine and wolfed down a Mars bar before going back to the exam. Probably the best decision of my life. I got a big energy burst when it looked like everyone else was hitting the wall.
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I took Course 3 in a classroom that had stadium-style cheating. I could easily see 2-3 candidates' answer sheets without even squinting. Did I glance/compare dot patterns occasionally?...of course. Did others in the same room do the same?...likely. Would I have passed without this cramped seating arrangement..I think so. Is that cheating? ....depends on who you talk to.
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Where is that sitting. For future reference. Of course I'll be ready each time.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:44 PM
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I admit I've cheated on an exam.

I was studying for course 2, but I just felt compelled to read up on some life contingencies. Course 2 finally forgave me just before the conversion. I'll never do that again.

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I admit I've cheated on an exam.

I was studying for course 2, but I just felt compelled to read up on some life contingencies. Course 2 finally forgave me just before the conversion. I'll never do that again.

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I took Course 3 in a classroom that had stadium-style cheating. I could easily see 2-3 candidates' answer sheets without even squinting. Did I glance/compare dot patterns occasionally?...of course. Did others in the same room do the same?...likely. Would I have passed without this cramped seating arrangement..I think so. Is that cheating? ....depends on who you talk to.
I don't think so. Meaning I don't think it depends on who you talk to. (Inadvertent glancing is one thing. Comparing crosses the line, especially if you would change or even recheck an answer if the comparison showed a difference.)
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:45 PM
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I don't think so. Meaning I don't think it depends on who you talk to. (Inadvertent glancing is one thing. Comparing crosses the line, especially if you would change or even recheck an answer if the comparison showed a difference.)
What if you wouldn't change? I might be curious just to see how big of an idiot I'm sitting next to, but with these pass rates why would I assume he knows the correct answer when I don't?
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What if you wouldn't change? I might be curious just to see how big of an idiot I'm sitting next to, but with these pass rates why would I assume he knows the correct answer when I don't?
I suspect you're in big, big trouble if the proctor reports you for comparing your answers with someone else's. But I wouldn't consider it cheating if it definitely would not affect your answer sheet.

"Would not", not "did not". If you recheck an answer because of a difference, and would change it if you found an error (even if you would change it only to an answer you could derive), that's cheating, whether or not your rechecking finds an error. IMO.
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I guess that makes sense. By the way, I've never looked at someone's answer, and I never would, because I don't think it would affect my answer. Although, as you say, it might "affect" your answer even if you didn't simply copy their answer.
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