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#11
01-08-2018, 06:53 PM
 campbell Mary Pat Campbell SOA AAA Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NY Studying for duolingo and coursera Favorite beer: Murphy's Irish Stout Posts: 81,175 Blog Entries: 6

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 Originally Posted by 2pac Shakur there was a pretty neat mortality presentation at a Val Act awhile ago by Waterloo University maybe? that was pretty neat so this would be similar
Perhaps you could find it and link it. Because that might be helpful to the rest of us to know what you have in mind.
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#12
01-08-2018, 07:04 PM
 2pac Shakur Member SOA Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: short Posts: 91,837

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 Originally Posted by campbell Perhaps you could find it and link it. Because that might be helpful to the rest of us to know what you have in mind.
not sure - lemme see
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#13
01-09-2018, 06:27 PM
 2pac Shakur Member SOA Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: short Posts: 91,837

Can't find it.
Not sure it is necessary to have that in order to understand my question though.
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01-09-2018, 07:34 PM
 campbell Mary Pat Campbell SOA AAA Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NY Studying for duolingo and coursera Favorite beer: Murphy's Irish Stout Posts: 81,175 Blog Entries: 6

I'm trying to figure out what different kinds of results you're expecting to see. If you had an example to look at, it would give an idea.

I'm sure reinsurers are doing their own work in this area, and I doubt they're interested in sharing their info publicly. But hey, I could be wrong.
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#15
01-09-2018, 07:58 PM
 Marcie Member CAS Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 6,576

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 Originally Posted by 2pac Shakur Has the SOA ever considered crowdsourcing their experience studies? Instead of the SOA creating the next mortality table update - they could make it a contest on kaggle. Would be neat to see what non-actuaries come up with.
But, but, actuaries are Uniquely Qualified $\text{^{TM}}$!
#16
02-08-2018, 02:22 PM
 2pac Shakur Member SOA Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: short Posts: 91,837

Here is the kind of thing you get if you have non-actuaries do mortality studies:

https://flowingdata.com/2015/09/23/y...live-probably/
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02-08-2018, 03:40 PM
 JMO Carol Marler Non-Actuary Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Back home again in Indiana Studying for Nothing actuarial. Posts: 36,889

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 Originally Posted by 2pac Shakur Here is the kind of thing you get if you have non-actuaries do mortality studies: https://flowingdata.com/2015/09/23/y...live-probably/
Well, actually, the Social Security Admin.* did the mortality study. The website in your link does a nice job of visualizing what their mortality data means.

*Note: I'm pretty sure they still have actuaries to do this kind of thing.
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02-08-2018, 03:58 PM
 2pac Shakur Member SOA Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: short Posts: 91,837

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 Originally Posted by JMO Well, actually, the Social Security Admin.* did the mortality study. The website in your link does a nice job of visualizing what their mortality data means. *Note: I'm pretty sure they still have actuaries to do this kind of thing.
I thought the data came from the SS Admin.
The study was done by the site.
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#19
02-08-2018, 04:10 PM
 campbell Mary Pat Campbell SOA AAA Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NY Studying for duolingo and coursera Favorite beer: Murphy's Irish Stout Posts: 81,175 Blog Entries: 6

It's not a study.

It's a simulation. And it's not a bad simulation, per se.

But one can just generate the distribution of deaths from the SocSec tables.
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#20
02-08-2018, 04:30 PM
 Neutral Omen Member SOA Join Date: Oct 2011 Favorite beer: Kwak Posts: 6,990

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 Originally Posted by JMO The website in your link does a nice job of visualizing what their mortality data means.
We must have different definitions of "nice"
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