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Old 12-15-2017, 04:41 PM
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Do you think it is possible to hook up with people from ASA APC to find a job?

I am hesitating to attend the Dallas APC in January (need to fly there) or Boston APC in April (take bus). I can get ASA earlier if attending the Dallas APC. It costs more and it is not likely to meet people in my area.
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Do you think it is possible to hook up with people from ASA APC to find a job?

I am hesitating to attend the Dallas APC in January (need to fly there) or Boston APC in April (take bus). I can get ASA earlier if attending the Dallas APC. It costs more and it is not likely to meet people in my area.
Does anyone here think it is possible to hook with people from ASA APC?
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It's mostly ELs who come from different locations and practice areas. Also, there is no time designated to networking (other than time to eat).
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It's mostly ELs who come from different locations and practice areas. Also, there is no time designated to networking (other than time to eat).
EL's? oh damn, i'm gonna be the oldest person at APC!

I wouldn't really view APC as a networking event regardless.
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In case you didnít know, APC attendees are prospective ASAís and one volunteer speaker, none of whom are at the hiring level.
That's what I heard. There is no harm to ask.
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EL's? oh damn, i'm gonna be the oldest person at APC!

I wouldn't really view APC as a networking event regardless.
we can play, guess who's the oldest person here. *everyone looks at ao fan*
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EL's? oh damn, i'm gonna be the oldest person at APC!
There were plenty of older folks there when I went many moons ago.
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Or are you not revealing your identity?
probably not. just find the oldest looking person there and think it's me.
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In case you didnít know, APC attendees are prospective ASAís and one volunteer speaker, none of whom are at the hiring level.
The one I went to had a bunch of facilitators, and there was "networking" at the breakfast. Admittedly, that was a bunch of years ago.

We were broken up into groups with one facilitator leading each group... maybe 40 or so people in each group.

The facilitators were probably hiring level, but the attendees weren't. About your best bet from the attendees would be inside knowledge that perhaps a position was about to open up somewhere.

The other advantage of getting your ASA sooner rather than later is that the second the ASA list is published, you will get phone calls from about 6 vultures recruiters wanting to help you find a position.
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The facilitators were probably hiring level, ...........................

The other advantage of getting your ASA sooner rather than later is that the second the ASA list is published, you will get phone calls from about 6 vultures recruiters wanting to help you find a position.
That makes sense. If the flight ticket to Dallas is still less than $200, I will go.
It is really tough to land an EL job. I passed 5 SOA (some of them are CAS) exams very quickly and have a PhD. I couldn't even get an interview in 7 months.
My friend is working at HR of a big insurance company. She told me that there is oversupply of actuaries, they don't bother to spend too much time recruiting candidates. Basically, they cull from their own intern program. For people like me who is switching career path, not being a fresh graduate, they won't pass the resume to the hiring manager.

I am sure that my profile is a good fit for model validation. I have publications in very good journals using econometrics , time series and predictive modelling. But again, for EL job, some companies only pick candidates from fresh graduates.
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