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Old 07-06-2016, 08:10 PM
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When is an applicant considered a career changer? I'm guessing after at least one year?

I ask because it would be great to apply with a few exams and some related experience and not have to worry about being asked about gpa.
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:29 PM
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how much of a career is 1 year
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Was it foolish for you to choose Actuarial from the beginning instead of keeping other career paths open? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be an FSA at this point in time if you did. You're downplaying the effort you've made.

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I know this post is a little old, but I missed it before so I'll reply anyway.

I am a career changer. When I started down the actuarial path for a change, I realized it would be a big time investment to finish. However, all it took to get a job was passing a couple of exams. If I didn't like it, I did not have a lot of sunk costs and could switch easily. My attitude towards the actuarial path was the opposite of yours - I liked it because I could keep my options open.
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When is an applicant considered a career changer? I'm guessing after at least one year?

I ask because it would be great to apply with a few exams and some related experience and not have to worry about being asked about gpa.
More like at least 5 years in the same or related industry.
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More like at least 5 years in the same or related industry.
Thanks for your reply. Do you think that having 3 exams along with about a year of experience on a job that requires regular use of Excel, VBA, SQL, and R is enough to compete with a recent graduate that has a good gpa, an internship, and 2 exams?

Also, how is non-actuarial, full-time experience regarded in comparison to actuarial internships?
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Edit: I had something snarky here before but I'm not an ******* i promise.

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Thanks for your reply. Do you think that having 3 exams along with about a year of experience on a job that requires regular use of Excel, VBA, SQL, and R is enough to compete with a recent graduate that has a good gpa, an internship, and 2 exams?

Also, how is non-actuarial, full-time experience regarded in comparison to actuarial internships?
3 Exams + some job-related experience is better than 3 Exams + no job.

My advice is to worry less about things you have no control over and market what you do have to potential employers.

Don't wait to have the "ideal competitive position" before applying for positions. Send out your resume . . . if you're not getting interviews, have folks from the AO review/critique your resume to help you identify what changes to make to the resume and/or what things you should be focused on doing.

There is very little to be gained in trying to "compare" *your* non-actuarial experience to someone else's actuarial internships. Look at what experience you do have and present how you benefited your employer. I got hired by my current company based on what I did for my prior employers which included the military and working for an industrial manufacturing plant . . . and had no actuarial experience.
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Pension FSA with ~12 yrs experience here, thinking of moving to casualty for money/long-term security, etc. Questions:

1. How difficult a move would this be, both in terms of finding a job and learning the new trade? How marketable is a seasoned actuary from another field? How valuable is client/personel responsibility to an employer, compared to expertise in the field? If I want to stay in a consulting environment, would it be more difficult?

2. What exams should I take before even starting to look? Was thinking of 5, 6 and 7. Is this necessary or should I just start?

3. Anything else I should know?

Thanks in advance.
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