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Old 04-28-2018, 04:22 PM
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Hi folks,

I wanted to ask people's views and experience of utilizing recruiters to help the search for positions.

For background, I have a year's experience with a large life insurer, based in NYC, and now looking to move on and find a position somewhere with a better policy towards study support.

Would the people on this fine group recommend the use of recruiters as a good way to scan good opportunities for someone with a year's experience, or at least as a way to complement direct searches?

If so - would anyone be willing to share some recommendations on good recruiters they trust? I've managed to browse for some of the larger ones such as DWS, but wanted to see if there were others that people would recommend

I'm relatively new to the NYC actuarial market, so any advice here appreciated

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JE
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:49 PM
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Hi folks,

I wanted to ask people's views and experience of utilizing recruiters to help the search for positions.

For background, I have a year's experience with a large life insurer, based in NYC, and now looking to move on and find a position somewhere with a better policy towards study support.

Would the people on this fine group recommend the use of recruiters as a good way to scan good opportunities for someone with a year's experience, or at least as a way to complement direct searches?

If so - would anyone be willing to share some recommendations on good recruiters they trust? I've managed to browse for some of the larger ones such as DWS, but wanted to see if there were others that people would recommend

I'm relatively new to the NYC actuarial market, so any advice here appreciated

Regards

JE
Can't go wrong with DWS.
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:22 PM
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Discussion of recruiters by name is generally discouraged on the board.

I’ll just say there’s plenty of good ones and plenty of bad ones and some good advice in my sig line for finding them.

Generally think it’s a bad idea to rely solely on recruiters but would add them to your mix With only a year of experience that’s def true.
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:38 PM
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If you are in nyc, why dont you just send emails to actuaries in nyc and apply on your own? Not sure if a recruiter will add a whole lot of value at your level. Nyc is a big market so you probably have a plenty of online job postings there.
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:34 PM
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They add value in certain situations.

With only 1 year of experience you are probably better off applying to open positions directly - especially if you are planning on sticking to larger companies.
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Old 05-01-2018, 08:54 AM
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Only time they add value is when they have an exclusive relationship with certain employers for private opportunities.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:43 AM
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This was my experience last year with two different recruiting firms:

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Anecdotally, I recently did a job search and mainly worked with DW Simpson (two sets of two recruiters, or probably each set had a recruiter and kind of an assistant, but I think i received emails from all four people) and also Actuarial Careers. AC was much more responsive and had many more opportunities for me than DWS did. AC got me a few interviews and my current job. I think DWS got me maybe a couple of phone interviews.

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Oh, I should have been more clear. I didn't use two different DWS recruiters simultaneously. The first one went on an extended leave during which another one filled in. I just mentioned working with different recruiters to show the amount of exposure I had to DWS recruiters.

I should also say that I was probably not a typical case. I had switched practice area post-ASA and I didn't have much variety of experience after ASA, so I became an FSA with more exams than experience. But I was still able to find interviews, and my current job, with Actuarial Careers, not DWS.
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Only time they add value is when they have an exclusive relationship with certain employers for private opportunities.
Definitely not true and this kind of ignorance will limit your career.
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Definitely not true and this kind of ignorance will limit your career.
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