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Old 03-26-2020, 11:48 PM
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https://www.newscientist.com/article...pert-predicts/

Britain doesn't expect to be overwhelmed, 20,000 deaths at most likely much lower.

Importantly, it looks like R0 may be 3+ rather than 2-2.5.
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As of 3/28, China is barring ALL foreigners from China. Draw your own conclusions.
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To underscore again why I donít trust any of the COVID-19 numbers from China, as of 3/28, China is kicking out ALL foreigners from China. Itís getting bad.
Yeah.

And speaking of countries we don't know much about -- what's up with Russia?
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And speaking of countries we don't know much about -- what's up with Russia?


I updated my post. Either way, info out of China is shaky at best.

As far as Russia goes, who the **** knows.
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Lotta younger people dying in Italy because their healthcare system is overwhelmed and they can't get basic supportive care.
That's not true. .3% of of their deaths are to people under 40. 8.4% under 70. 91.6% of their deaths are over 70.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...e-group-italy/
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That sounds like a marketing person trying to convince people that WalMart is where middle class people shop for clothes. I don't think most people that buy their clothes at WalMart can WFH via video conferencing. But I'm hardly an expert on the topic, so tell me if I'm wrong?
Middle class people who don't normally shop at Walmart for clothes may turn to Walmart in a time like this for various reasons:

- Walmart's physical stores are actually open, unlike most clothing-only stores
- Walmart has a bigger online presence than many higher-quality clothing retailers
- The clothes can be cheaper than what people would wear to an office, because the quality can't really be discerned in webcam videoconferencing
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Wal-Mart is open as opposed to other clothing stores which may not be.
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https://apnews.com/04e2df3928cd82fb385114685f14c373?
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MOSCOW (AP) — Russian authorities acknowledged Tuesday that a low number of coronavirus cases in the country could be a result of insufficient screening and warned that the nation must brace for the worst.

President Vladimir Putin donned a yellow protective suit to visit the top Moscow hospital treating coronavirus patients and conferred with officials on how to stem the outbreak. Hospital chief Denis Protsenko told Putin the country needs to “prepare for the Italian scenario.”

Russia has reported 495 cases and no deaths. Critics have argued for weeks that the numbers are too low for a country with a 2,600-mile border with China, blaming a low level of testing and a long tradition of hiding unpleasant truths.

At the same time the coronavirus was engulfing Europe, Putin ordered an April 22 plebiscite on constitutional amendments that could allow him to stay in power until 2036. But he also has said the vote could be postponed if the contagion spreads.



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MOSCOW (Reuters) - The mayor of Moscow told President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday that the number of coronavirus cases in the Russian capital far exceeded the official figures, as Putin donned a protective suit and respirator to visit a hospital.

Russian President Vladimir Putin wearing protective gear walks at a hospital for patients infected with coronavirus disease (COVID-19) on the outskirts of Moscow, Russia March 24, 2020. Sputnik/Alexey Druzhinin/Kremlin via REUTERS
The comments by Sergei Sobyanin, a close ally of Putin, were authorities’ strongest indcation yet that they do not have a full grasp of how widely the virus has spread throughout Russia’s vast expanse.

Russia has so far reported 495 cases of the virus and one death, far fewer than major western European countries.

Putin has previously said the situation is under control, but some doctors have questioned how far official data reflect reality, and the government on Tuesday closed nightclubs, cinemas and children’s entertainment centres to slow the spread of the virus.

“A serious situation is unfolding,” Sobyanin told Putin at a meeting, saying the real number of cases was unclear but that they were increasing quickly.

Testing for the virus was scarce, he said, and many Muscovites returning from abroad were self-isolating at home or in holiday cottages in the countryside, and not being tested.

“In reality, there are significantly more sick people,” Sobyanin said.

The government also said it would organise a return of its citizens from countries hit by the coronavirus if they wanted to come.

Meanwhile Putin donned a bright yellow full-body hazmat suit and respirator as he visited a hospital on the outskirts of Moscow that is treating coronavirus patients, and praised the doctors for their work.

Separately, two senior lawmakers including Vyacheslav Volodin, speaker of the lower house of parliament, proposed legislation to make flouting anti-virus quarantine measures punishable with jail time.

The bill would provide for up to seven years’ jail for actions that led to the death of two or more people, or up to three years for causing mass infection, the RIA news agency reported.


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Russia confirmed 196 new coronavirus infections on Thursday, bringing the country’s official number of cases up to 1,036 and marking the country's largest one-day increase in cases so far.

Russia said one more person had been killed by the virus in the past 24 hours, taking the total number of deaths to four.

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Russia’s officially reported numbers — which are still smaller than those in European countries — have sparked suspicion as they spiked in the past week. Experts warn that Russia's testing capacity is hampered by bureaucracy, while officials warn that the real number of cases is likely much higher.

Most of the new cases, 157, are in Moscow. This week, Moscow changed the way it counts its coronavirus cases, with patients considered coronavirus-positive upon a single positive test rather than having samples sent to a lab Novosibirsk for further verification.

Worldwide, the virus has infected more than 530,000 people and killed more than 24,000.


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As of 3/28, China is barring ALL foreigners from China. Draw your own conclusions.
They resolved their outbreak and all their new cases are imported cases so it’s common sense.
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Many countries are doing that, only allowing their own citizens in. Jamaica took it even further and closed their ports to all incoming passenger flights and ships; anybody can go out, but only cargo is allowed in.
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