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Old 03-29-2020, 01:16 PM
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Old 03-29-2020, 01:26 PM
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Some friends who are doctors told me that they cannot reveal true situations in hospitals now as that may jeopardize their jobs. Doctors in NYC cannot get tested for COVID-19, so you wouldn't hear any news or report mentioning the number of infected medical workers there.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ronavirus.html

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Downing Street says China faces a 'reckoning' over their handling of coronavirus and risks becoming a 'pariah state' as Boris Johnson faces pressure to scrap the Huawei deal
  • Ministers say China risks becoming a 'pariah state' over its handling of outbreak
  • They are furious over the Communist state's campaign of misinformation
  • PM Boris Johnson is now facing calls to reverse decision on Huawei 5G deal
  • Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?


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Boris Johnson’s allies turned on China over the coronavirus crisis yesterday, as Britain’s death toll from the epidemic reached four figures.

Ministers and senior Downing Street officials said the Communist state now faces a ‘reckoning’ over its handling of the outbreak and risks becoming a ‘pariah state’.

They are furious over China’s campaign of misinformation, attempts to exploit the pandemic for economic gain and atrocious animal rights record.

The Prime Minister, who now faces Cabinet calls to reverse his decision to let controversial Chinese firm Huawei build large parts of Britain’s new 5G telecoms network, today warns that the epidemic is likely to worsen in the coming weeks – but that he expects the British ‘spirit’ to overcome the crisis.

In a letter to 30 million households, Mr Johnson – who was yesterday working in self-isolation in Downing Street after testing positive for the virus – says: ‘Things will get worse before they get better.’

In another dramatic day:
  • The UK death toll soared to 1,019 – up 260 in 24 hours, including the first surgeon to die from Covid-19;
  • NHS medical chief Stephen Powis said ‘every one of us has a part to play’ if deaths were to be kept below 20,000;
  • As No 10 released pictures of Mr Johnson at work, a poll found Chancellor Rishi Sunak is the voters’ favourite to be interim Prime Minister if Mr Johnson cannot perform his duties;
  • Tracking by this newspaper suggested the virus sweeping Whitehall may have originated with the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier;
  • The first images emerged from inside London’s ExCel Centre as it is being transformed into a 4,000-bed makeshift hospital;
  • Deaths across Europe exceeded 20,000, with Italy suffering 10,023 fatalities and Spain seeing its biggest daily rise of 889 to reach 5,690;
  • Global infections hit 600,000;
  • Ministers were considering using the RAF to airlift Britons stranded abroad after Opposition pressure;
  • A front line NHS doctor gave a harrowing account to this newspaper about how medics are having to ‘play God’ due to equipment shortages;
  • Amid fear of more domestic abuse cases, Home Secretary Priti Patel warned culprits they would be ‘brought to justice’;
  • Police risked fresh claims of snooping by tracking motorists’ cars to check how far they have travelled;
  • Panic buyers provoked anger by throwing away excess food – some of it unopened;
  • US President Donald Trump suggested he may try to put New York in quarantine;
  • Wuhan, the Chinese epicentre of the crisis, partially reopened after more than two months in isolation;
  • The latest British victims of the epidemic to be named include the first surgeon to die from the virus.

Transplant consultant Dr Adil El Tayar, 63, who died on Wednesday, is thought to have become infected while was working at a hospital in the Midlands.

His cousin, the BBC presenter Zeinab Badawi, said: ‘Adil was a stoic and an optimist and thought he would soon recover. This virus is unforgiving, indiscriminate and it can be brutal.’

Azam Khan, 95, a four-time British squash champion, was also named among the latest victims, alongside amateur DJ Danny Sharma, 38, from London, retired telecoms engineer Pat Bewley, 79, from Suffolk, and taxi driver Spencer Kurash, 57, from Chigwell, Essex.

In his letter, which will land on doormats from Tuesday, Mr Johnson says he understands the disruption caused by the lockdown, but describes it as ‘absolutely necessary’, adding: ‘The more we all follow the rules, the fewer lives will be lost.’ And he says that it is with ‘great British spirit that we will beat coronavirus’.

Meanwhile, Business Secretary Alok Sharma announced yesterday that insolvency rules would be changed to allow firms greater flexibility as they dealt with the crisis.

He also unveiled measures to boost the supply of personal protective equipment, such as face masks and aprons, to front line NHS staff, and to allow new hand sanitisers to be available ‘in a matter of days’.

Following disputed reports that the death toll might be lower than feared, NHS medical director Stephen Powis urged people to stay locked down to defeat the virus, adding ‘now is not the time to be complacent... I cannot emphasise enough to everybody today – you have the chance to save a life.’

As the fight against coronavirus continued, there was growing resentment towards the Chinese in No 10.

One senior Government source said: ‘Of course, the only priority now is to deal with the crisis, but everybody knows that there has to be a reckoning when all this is over.’

Writing for The Mail on Sunday, former Tory Party leader Iain Duncan Smith says: ‘For too long, nations have lamely kow-towed to China in the desperate hope of wining trade deals. But once we get clear of this terrible pandemic, it is imperative that we all rethink that relationship and put it on a much more balanced and honest basis.’
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Old 03-29-2020, 01:42 PM
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Some friends who are doctors told me that they cannot reveal true situations in hospitals now as that may jeopardize their jobs. Doctors in NYC cannot get tested for COVID-19, so you wouldn't hear any news or report mentioning the number of infected medical workers there.
I don't know - seems unlikely that a hospital could afford to get rid of a doctor at the moment, and I doubt they want to deal with the PR backlash from something like that. The state is testing 15,000 - 20,000 people a day, so seems hard to believe they're not testing medical professionals.


However - During Cuomo's conference today, he was asked if he knew how many medical professionals have tested positive - he said he doesn't track that statistic.
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I don't know - seems unlikely that a hospital could afford to get rid of a doctor at the moment, and I doubt they want to deal with the PR backlash from something like that.
Maybe they wouldn't actually fire any doctors, but that doesn't stop them from threatening to do so.
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Doctor who criticized his hospital's coronavirus response fired:
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Maybe they wouldn't actually fire any doctors, but that doesn't stop them from threatening to do so.
Sample size of 1 fired doctor.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...as-been-fired/

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Cuomo's Updates for NY State:
  • Rate of new cases doubling every 6 days, versus every 2 days in the beginning
  • USNS Comfort (1,000 beds, 1,200 medical personnel) arrives on Monday - for Non-COVID patients only
  • 2000 people currently on ventilators (State has around 15000 plus other solutions)
  • 8500 current hospitalizations - 850 discharges, 1100 new over last day
  • 15,000 - 20,000 tests being done a day
  • Plan being put in place for hospitals in same area to coordinate with each other on patient capacity. Overflow to other parts of the state
  • Max projection is 30,000 ventilators at apex - roughly 14-21 days away
  • A bunch of stuff around $$$, but I tuned out there. I do think the shifting attention to $$$ impact means they're feeling more confident about the medical situation

Probably other stuff I'm forgetting at the moment, but good news overall.
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I don't know - seems unlikely that a hospital could afford to get rid of a doctor at the moment, and I doubt they want to deal with the PR backlash from something like that.
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Don't be so sure.

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