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These are where actuaries are classified in different countries:
USA: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/math/home.htm
Canada: http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/report-eng....&source=allnoc
UK: http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.....html?soc=2425
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Who counts as a mathematician according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics?

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/education-tr...y-teachers.htm

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/math/mathema...tisticians.htm

It seems whom most people here consider mathematicians would be called postsecondary teachers by BLS.
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Are actuaries considered mathematicians? I have taken and passed exam P, and while I have a strong foundation in undergraduate mathematics, I do not have the ability to schedule time to spend at the university in pursuing a doctorate in mathematics. Has anyone been able to develop skill at research level mathematics after having started out as an actuary?
Most actuaries are not mathematicians. Actuaries who are professors of actuarial science might get close, but at best they're applied mathematicians. Actuaries working in industry are not remotely mathematicians. At most they use mathy tools to solve a small range of finance problems.

If you want to do research-level math, this is not the field for you. You will not achieve that goal here.
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Most actuaries are not mathematicians. Actuaries who are professors of actuarial science might get close, but at best they're applied mathematicians. Actuaries working in industry are not remotely mathematicians. At most they use mathy tools to solve a small range of finance problems.

If you want to do research-level math, this is not the field for you. You will not achieve that goal here.
On the other hand, some people do research-level mathematics and then decide actuarial work is a more lucrative career. (And not all mathematicians do research--some of this depends on your definition of mathematician.) So the correct answer to "Are actuaries mathematicians?" is that some of them are, just as some of them are physicists, statisticians, engineers, philosophers, etc.
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Isn't calling oneself a mathematician a bit pretentious?
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Isn't calling oneself a mathematician a bit pretentious?
No more so than calling oneself a statistician, a physicist, or an actuary (assuming the description is accurate).
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No more so than calling oneself a statistician, a physicist, or an actuary (assuming the description is accurate).
In other words, Curious George is saying, more pretentious than calling oneself an engineer, and less pretentious than calling oneself a philosopher.
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Isn't calling oneself a mathematician a bit pretentious?
I call myself a highly compensated nerd. Probably pretentious, but also accurate.

And, it's a hit with the chicks. Or, at least one who was a big enough sucker to fall for that line, which is all I needed.
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