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Wear a Suit 102 55.74%
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Old 08-19-2018, 02:19 AM
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You’re still the outlier after two years.

If the interview is for a data scientist position at a west coast video game company, your point may be valid. The vast majority of actuaries work for employers where suits are appropriate interview attire.
I agree with everything you have said. But as I've already stated, projecting actuarial norms onto things that clearly have different initial conditions seems like a socially awkward task.

A reasonable answer might be: Well in actuarial interviews, wear suits, but in this case, I don't know.

I don't know.

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I agree with everything you have said. But as I've already stated, projecting actuarial norms onto things that clearly have different initial conditions seems like a socially awkward task.

A reasonable answer might be: Well in actuarial interviews, wear suits, but in this case, I don't know.

I don't know.

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I agree with everything you have said. But as I've already stated, projecting actuarial norms onto things that clearly have different initial conditions seems like a socially awkward task.

A reasonable answer might be: Well in actuarial interviews, wear suits, but in this case, I don't know.

I don't know.

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I agree with everything you have said. But as I've already stated, projecting actuarial norms onto things that clearly have different initial conditions seems like a socially awkward task.

A reasonable answer might be: Well in actuarial interviews, wear suits, but in this case, I don't know.

I don't know.

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Yes, it's completely ridiculous that actuaries, posting on the Actuarial Outpost, replying to a thread in a forum about actuarial careers, would project actuarial norms.



Am I supposed to assume that people don't read the first post as well?

I guess I was expecting a greater attention to detail from the individuals on this forum.

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Am I supposed to assume that people don't read the first post as well?

I guess I was expecting a greater attention to detail from the individuals on this forum.

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Like the detail that says it's a non-actuarial interview?

Oh wait, that's not there.
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Yes, I'm responding to a weeks-old post, but this is a years-old thread, so...

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You’re still the outlier after two years.

If the interview is for a data scientist position at a west coast video game company, your point may be valid. The vast majority of actuaries work for employers where suits are appropriate interview attire.
A few years ago, I worked in an office where the dress code was full-on casual. Nice t-shirt, jeans, and tennis shoes fit in very well there.

When it came time to add another actuary to the local team, some candidates came in standard suits, while others came in various degrees of business casual.

If we had been presented with three copies of the exact same person but-for choice of attire (suit vs nice business casual vs. local standard), in all likelihood we would have chosen the bus-cas candidate because of the perceived non-verbal message.

I pretty much agree with Whisper's answer from days gone by:
  • When interviewing for an actuarial position at a new company and nothing has been said about dress, wear a suit.
  • When interviewing for an actuarial position at a new company where you're told in passing "oh we dress business casual"...wear a suit.
  • When interviewing for an actuarial position at a new company where you are explicitly told something to the effect of "please come dressed business casual", dress at the extreme nice end of how you're told to dress.
  • When interviewing for a position as an "internal candidate", dress the lesser of:
    • (Your normal office attire OR one notch above the standard dress for that position/office, which ever is greater) or;
    • A suit

As long as you look well-groomed, and as long as you are dressed at least at the nice end of local standard dress, your attire shouldn't play a role in whether you get hired. A suit almost always is the right answer for actuarial positions.

But if you're being told explicitly to dress a certain way, there's probably a reason...and the inability to heed the instruction will hurt you more than your choice of attire.
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