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Old 02-21-2008, 03:28 PM
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Default 1980 CET Tables

I need help finding them. Anyone know where they are located?
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:50 PM
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Most of the mortality tables can be found in the SOA's Table Manager:

http://www.soa.org/professional-inte...e-manager.aspx

The excel add in version is pretty handy.
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Alright, I tried the table manager and every time I try to open up the add in, I get the box that says "Macros", and no matter whether i lcick enable or disable macros, nothing comes up.
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Try using the stand alone version then. It has the option to export a table as a text file and then you can put it into excel. I think I had trouble getting the excel add in to work at first as well but it's been so long I don't remember.
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The stand alone has them.
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Is it required that these CET rates are used (instead of 1980 CSO) for the purpose of calculating NAIC reserves on Paid-Up Extended Term business?
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Go to mort.soa.org & filter for CSO/CET
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I assume you are asking about issue years that your company has elected use of the 1980 tables. My guess is yes, but it has been a while since I read SVL. I don't think however that the absence of ETI tables for 2001 CSO means ETI would still use 1980 CET.
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I assume you are asking about issue years that your company has elected use of the 1980 tables. My guess is yes, but it has been a while since I read SVL. I don't think however that the absence of ETI tables for 2001 CSO means ETI would still use 1980 CET.
This is probably correct.

Some of the state summary pages in the 2017 Valuation Manual state that since there is no 2001 version of the CET table, the 2001 CSO table would be used.
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This is probably correct.

Some of the state summary pages in the 2017 Valuation Manual state that since there is no 2001 version of the CET table, the 2001 CSO table would be used.
IIRC, the creators of 2001 CSO said that ETI mortality wasn't sufficiently different to warrant a separate table.
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