Vick Indicted

[UNCORRELATED LAY]

Originally Posted by foghorn

These dogs do not need training to maul other animals. If anything, they are just being trained to do it better.

No carnivore needs training on how to kill. What is your point. They are still training them.

[whisper]

If Vick is guilty of any of this, he deserves everything he gets.

No matter what you think about dog fighting, Vick has put his life as a professional football player in jeapordy over it. For some reason, I think the life style and opportunities that being a professional football player dwarfs anything that dog-fighting could offer Vick.

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Personally, I hope that he's not guilty. Although I think he's a lousy quarterback, he is still a great football player - it would be a shame for us to miss seeing Vick play because he couldn't avoid being entangled in this.

[SharksFan08]

Originally Posted by UNCORRELATED LAY

This is ridiculous. They are public figures who earn a living off of public opinion. We have every right to form an opinion regardless of what the laws say.

Sure, have a ball. That caused a really great outcome for some Duke lacrosse players and coaches.

You have a right to form whatever opinion you want about whatever you want. In my opinion, I'm tired of people being tried by media buzz rather than evidence.

[whisper]

Originally Posted by UNCORRELATED LAY

No carnivore needs training on how to kill. What is your point. They are still training them.

Technically speaking, dogs aren't carnivores - they're omnivores like us.

The training is necessary because hunters rarely face off against healthy opponents.

[Feif]

Originally Posted by whisper

Personally, I hope that he's not guilty. Although I think he's a lousy quarterback, he is still a great football player - it would be a shame for us to miss seeing Vick play because he couldn't avoid being entangled in this.

He couldn't avoid it? Of course he could have avoided it. He (possibly) chose not to.

[LifeAct]

Originally Posted by whisper

Personally, I hope that he's not guilty. Although I think he's a lousy quarterback, he is still a great football player - it would be a shame for us to miss seeing Vick play because he couldn't avoid being entangled in this.

You could say these same things about Marcus.

It's kind of ironic now that this is all coming out. Back when Marcus was at VT he spent the summer with Michael in hopes of turning his life around. I guess that we shouldn't be surprised that it didn't work.

[foghorn]

Originally Posted by whisper

The training is necessary because hunters rarely face off against healthy opponents.

Wow. I think I need more explanation on this one.

[whisper]

Originally Posted by Feif

He couldn't avoid it? Of course he could have avoided it. He (possibly) chose not to.

Assuming he's connected, he may have had the opportunity to avoid this. He could have walked away years ago. He could have immediately gone to the authorities when the story broke and it was still a state investigations and plea bargain and cooperate and get out from in front of the firing squad.

Now, its too late to avoid the consequences. Bad things are coming if he's guilty.

[foghorn]

Originally Posted by UNCORRELATED LAY

No carnivore needs training on how to kill. What is your point. They are still training them.

My point was to correct the misstatement so as to avoid anyone being confused or misled.

[whisper]

Originally Posted by foghorn

Wow. I think I need more explanation on this one.

Well, think about a wolf pack. When a wolf is vying for dominance of the pack, there may be a face off between the current alpha and the upstart. Even if it the confrontation ends up in violence, rarely does it end up with one of the wolves being severely maimed or killed - especially considering how much damage the winner would suffer to go that far. The winner would just be an easy target and taken out by an upstart that didn't join the 1st confrontation.

The instincts of the dogs is to surrender before getting to the level of violence that the dog fights want. Part of the training is to teach the dogs to do such serious injury to another animal. The other part of the training is to teach the dog to do serious injury to another animal while possibly being injured severly themselves.