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Is this true? Seems like the odds of contraction are much lower than I thought for 'risky' acts.



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Those are right, HIV is one of the least contagious diseases. If you get HIV, you can blame yourself lol.
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Is this true? Seems like the odds of contraction are much lower than I thought for 'risky' acts.



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Looks reasonable. If those are US figures the odds would be higher for all the "insertive" acts for uncircumsized men. HIV is not highly contagious, it's just really awful to get.
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You have to make sure that you're not in one of the super-high risk classes, though. The things that unduly put people at risk for HIV are going after it with someone who has another STD and you have one, too, where there are lesions or something of the sort.

You'd think that was uncommon, but I guess it's not, because somehow, approximately 1,000,000 people in the US have HIV or AIDS, and a lot of them didn't get it from sharing needles.

Based on those statistics, people must really be gettin down to bidness
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Is this true? Seems like the odds of contraction are much lower than I thought for 'risky' acts.

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If you consider the number of times per year that people do those things, the overall odds of contraction are not that low.
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I agree with the BS call. Half of all black chicks and 20% of white chicks. The numbers seem too high.
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HPV usually shows no symptoms, it's a scare tactic as Loner mentioned. I think Herpes is the only untreatable one on that list, and only one in 50 teenage girls has that, not much of a headline.

Teens were tested for four infections: human papillomavirus, or HPV, which can cause cervical cancer and affected 18 percent of girls studied; chlamydia, which affected 4 percent; trichomoniasis, 2.5 percent; and herpes simplex virus, 2 percent.
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Women who get the dangerous forms of HPV and who have to get "scraped" will not agree that just because it shows no symptoms for a while, it's harmless.

It isn't harmless. For unlucky guys, it can increase the risk of penile cancer, and for unlucky not-straight guys, it can lead to that and anal cancers.

It really isn't a joke.

Maybe a small percent of those who had HPV in general had the more dangerous types that don't present anything at all until they cause pre-cancerous or cancerous cells around the cervix, but they're still worth mentioning.

I've fortunately never "met" a wart, but had I in my dating days, it would've been a deal breaker. The girl on the other side wouldn't have thought it was so innocent then.

I don't think the CDC puts out too many "scare tactics" as an overall rule. If they did, they wouldn't have put up the list of HIV transmission rates shown above, which is grossly undertstated for people who have other risk factors, and it's probably understated for people who are fooling around with someone who has a high viral count (is that the right way to put it, health experts?).
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Women who get the dangerous forms of HPV and who have to get "scraped" will not agree that just because it shows no symptoms for a while, it's harmless.

It isn't harmless. For unlucky guys, it can increase the risk of penile cancer, and for unlucky not-straight guys, it can lead to that and anal cancers.

It really isn't a joke.

Maybe a small percent of those who had HPV in general had the more dangerous types that don't present anything at all until they cause pre-cancerous or cancerous cells around the cervix, but they're still worth mentioning.

I've fortunately never "met" a wart, but had I in my dating days, it would've been a deal breaker. The girl on the other side wouldn't have thought it was so innocent then.

I don't think the CDC puts out too many "scare tactics" as an overall rule. If they did, they wouldn't have put up the list of HIV transmission rates shown above, which is grossly undertstated for people who have other risk factors, and it's probably understated for people who are fooling around with someone who has a high viral count (is that the right way to put it, health experts?).
A scare tactic from CNN who created the headline, I didn't see a link there to the actual CDC paper. CNN knows when people think STD they are thinking AIDS, and that a headline such as the one they used grabs attention. When the breakdown comes it is much less sensational, also as Loner mentioned there is likely a lot of overlap so you can't simply add all the numbers up.
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