Seriously, what if you don't flinch when people question you?

[TZK]

Originally Posted by kolya23

No, we fully accept that there are different levels of intelligence in the population. Your posts have proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

This is a misquote. You separate a statement from the context that specifies it's exact meaning, then put it in a different context that gives it a different meaning. If you can't debate in a straightforward manner, don't waste our time you sniveling weasel.

Originally Posted by TZK

specifies it's exact meaning [...] don't waste our time you sniveling weasel.

TTIA

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Originally Posted by TZK

This is a misquote. You separate a statement from the context that specifies it's exact meaning, then put it in a different context that gives it a different meaning. If you can't debate in a straightforward manner, don't waste our time you sniveling weasel.

It's kind of hard to prove it's a misquote when you edit all of your posts, again, and again. Oh, and calling people snivelling weasels, isn't that the type of stuff you get upset with the rest of the world about?

[Quasi]

Originally Posted by TZK

....4) I did something else to make it worse. This is just refusing to accept the argument as given and speculating that something else must have happened. The person claiming this has no clue what my interviews are like and are just making things up because they refuse to accept that truly intelligent and straightforward people are treated with prejudice for illegitimate reasons. They WANT to be able to lash out at the guy who always has the right answer. They WANT to be able to attack anyone who is different or above average. What they want is communism and forced equality.

You just don't get it. No one is attacking you for being above average....no one lashes out at the guy who always has the right answer....truly intelligent people are not treated poorly in business because they are intelligent.

The key to all of this (and this has been pointed out to you by everyone many, many times) is in your definition of "straightforward people". There are ways to be straightfoward that do not result in being alienated and attacked....those are the socially acceptable ways of behaving. It is possible to be straightforward and socially acceptable. You refuse to accept that although you think you are just being yourself and just being straightforward you are rubbing people the wrong way. For proof that you are rubbing people the wrong way just read the responses you get to your posts and think about how your interviews go. It is possible to be "truly intelligent" and a "straightforward person" and not be a complete douche bag that alienates everyone they come into contact with including interviewers. It really is. I have known and worked with many such people.

The problem isn't your intelligence. The problem is that you think that being a "straightforward person" means that you can't act in a socially acceptable and amiable manner.

[MY$.02]

TZK there are two things to know about people. Nobody is better than anybody else. And everybody is the best at everything. Just accept those. Your problem is not that you are too intelligent obviously it is the opposite.

[MY$.02]

TZK did you grow up wealthy and spoiled? It seems like you grew up with this feeling of superiority. If you grew up wealthy and spoiled it's not your fault you dont know how to communicate to people without coming off condescending, it's your nanny's fault.

[MY$.02]

Maybe if you would apply and interview in France they would appreciate you more. You might appreciate them more too.

[TZK]

Better is an abstract concept and irrelevant to this discussion.

What we are talking about is how people react to someone who extracts information from their surroundings faster than others. This is something that would be demonstrated by someone having the right answer more often than others.

It is a scientifically proven fact that some people are better at this, and yet certain people seem hell bent on forcing the world to accept the idea that everyone is equal in this regard. Simply knowing the best answer more often then they do is enough to send these people off the deep end.

To be honest most of the people on this forum wouldn't have the conviction to say 1/10th of what they feel comfortable saying on the internet hiding behind anonymity and a keyboard. Most of you are full of @#$# and know it and would shut up really quickly looking into the eyes of someone who actually believes what they are saying. People don't fight for lies in real life. To be honest, I think that similar behavior on the internet should be considered equally as pathetic. Forums like this one should be moderated where debate fallacies such as dishonest behavior and repeated arguments would simply be deleted and the discussion allowed to continue in a straightforward and honest manner.

[MY$.02]

you're missing the point. Are you serious or just trollin'. If you're serious then I've met people with similar views as you unfortunately. It's smarter, I think, to not choose to go against the grain. Sometimes the smartest one in the room is the one that sets aside their idea of right and wrong and worries more about the end outcome. Righteousness is what you seem to be projecting and yes most are turned off by it. It is not easy to work with someone who always has to prove himself 'correct' in an attempt to be 'smarter'. You're also being a bit judgmental which is also not a favorable quality perhaps you judged the reason you weren't successful 'incorrectly' and a bit to quickly. If you are always looking to frame your experiences so that they back up your preconceived notions you are misleading yourself. Just my 2 cents though.

[TZK]

Originally Posted by Quasi

The problem is that you think that being a "straightforward person" means that you can't act in a socially acceptable and amiable manner.

What you call "socially acceptable" is clearly a matter of handicapping yourself so that you are at most only slightly above the average person who surrounds you.

As >I< explained multiple times, what people like you think of as an acceptable way of being intelligent doesn't really apply to someone who gathers information at a much faster rate than people around him or her.

The first time you figure something new out, you can just play it off as a fluke. Here you are basically saying "I'm an average guy just like you, but look what I stumbled across". This is what you call accepted intelligence. But do it again too soon and there is nothing you can say any more.

People who cannot face the reality that people are not truly equal simply define anything that causes someone to stand out as above average to be antisocial. You can't sugar coat it to make it so they won't be offended by it.

What you think is accepted intelligence is just average people patting each other on the back for every accomplishment they make. Meanwhile the person who can create those accomplishments at twice the rate is simply kicked out for being "arrogant" regardless of what they say and do to sugar coat it.

Funny thing is, I am one of the few of those types that is self aware enough that I can give information gathering tools to other people.