D&D...Adventures in the Underworld

[Gandalf]

Hteb,

If you decide to move down to where the corridor forks, be sure to shout out exactly where the goblin is, and also anything else interesting that you see. Use fewer words than the Gettysburg address.

[Gandalf]

Originally Posted by 4sigma

Miss Take throws her shuriken at BB2's neck. BB2 suddenly seems to be having difficulty keeping his head on straight.

He manages to run around for a few seconds before realizing that he's dead.

[Gandalf]

Originally Posted by 4sigma

If you'd like to take a move action, I can tell you what you see at that point to determine what to do with the rest of your turn.

Originally Posted by 4sigma

A charge action is a move action in which you make a basic melee attack at the end of your move. So you would move 5 squares and then make a basic melee attack. If no hostile creature happened to be in range to attack at the end of your move, you would simply end your move and attack a floor tile or something.

It looks like I might be able to attack BB9 without an action point, and that no one else could except maybe the rangers, by teleporting, I haven't tried to figure out their range It still seems likely that Hteb will want to make 2 moves and report what's visible (maybe using an action point to attack after those moves).

If we combine the answer about rounding the corner in a pure move (where I could stop below the corner to decide how much further to move) and that definition of a charge (a move action making a basic melee attack at the end of the move), it would suggest that I could charge around the corner, continuing to BB9 and attacking if he's close enough; continuing toward BB9 and attacking a floor tile or something if he's not; stopping or changing direction and attacking a floor tile or something if I don't like what I see. attacking a creature other than BB9 might also be conceivable, if one were within range when I rounded the corner.


Even if the DM rules I would be committed to charging to get as close to BB9 as possible, it's still a reasonable choice by me. Dwarves are wired to fight.

Seems like a very good plan, if I do have flexibility as I round the corner. Having someone like Hteb reconnoiter first might be even better, but if we don't want to risk her delightfully squishy body in that corridor,

[4sigma]

Originally Posted by 4sigma

Vertically first. At least, that's how the goblin went around it.

I believe you can. See below.

A charge action is a move action in which you make a basic melee attack at the end of your move. So you would move 5 squares and then make a basic melee attack. If no hostile creature happened to be in range to attack at the end of your move, you would simply end your move and attack a floor tile or something.

Upon reflection, I should technically reword the first line of this to say that a charge is a standard action in which you move your speed and make a basic melee attack at the end of your move. I don't think that was misunderstood, but wanted to make sure.

[Gandalf]

Originally Posted by 4sigma

Upon reflection, I should technically reword the first line of this to say that a charge is a standard action in which you move your speed and make a basic melee attack at the end of your move. I don't think that was misunderstood, but wanted to make sure.

I understood that for how much I could do in a turn, it was a standard action and not a move action. The question addressed how much move commitment was required before the target was visible. The earlier answer had clarified that if BB9 happened to be 7 away, I would move 5 rather than 0. Since the move part of a charge more precisely is move at least 2 squares from the original position, at most your speed, the current question is:
if I move [move action]5 squares, then charge [standard action]do I have the option to stop the charge movement after 2 squares, when I see what is around the corner? or even move 3 more squares, but not directly toward BB9?

Also, just for understanding and drawing future maps, did BB9 turn left (toward the right side of the map) to exit, or did he turn right?

[Htebazile]

Question: Can I move as far south as possible and then cast scorching burst into the corridor, even if I can't see the gobby? If, for instance, Gimli used two move actions and caught sight of the goblin, could I aim my area attack so as to target the square where Gimli says he is, even if I can't see him?

Another possibility--Sir K's Dragon Breath is a minor action, so, in theory at least, he could use two move actions (getting him into the south corridor) and then use Dragon Breath (which, with a range of 5, should reach the goblin) without needing an action point. This is currently my favorite suggestion.

[Gandalf]

Originally Posted by Htebazile

Question: Can I move as far south as possible and then cast scorching burst into the corridor, even if I can't see the gobby? If, for instance, Gimli used two move actions and caught sight of the goblin, could I aim my area attack so as to target the square where Gimli says he is, even if I can't see him?

Another possibility--Sir K's Dragon Breath is a minor action, so, in theory at least, he could use two move actions (getting him into the south corridor) and then use Dragon Breath (which, with a range of 5, should reach the goblin) without needing an action point. This is currently my favorite suggestion.

For simplicity I'll assume BB9 turned toward column E. The other side is just the mirror image.

Sir could get to D18 with two move actions, and then could use Dragon Breath. As I interpret the PH, it only has a maximum range of 3 (must start adjacent to him, and extend at most 3), thus hitting only if BB9 is in column E, F or G.

If your speed is 6, you could get to C14. From C14, I think you could aim a scorching burst at F19, hitting the goblin if he is in E, F or G.

Having Sir precede you would let you know if that strategy would work. Having me precede you isn't so good. My thought, if I go first, is to move/charge as far as G18, hopefully ending with a melee attack on BB9. Getting inside your area attack would not be part of my plan.

4Sigma might agree (he hasn't answered the question) that I could end my "charge" at C18 if I see BB9 in E,F or G. If he allowed that and I did, it would mean foregoing my melee attack for your area attack. Having me melee attack him seems better, since I would get an opportunity attack if that cowardly goblin ran away again on his next turn.

[Htebazile]

Originally Posted by Gandalf

For simplicity I'll assume BB9 turned toward column E. The other side is just the mirror image.

Sir could get to D18 with two move actions, and then could use Dragon Breath. As I interpret the PH, it only has a maximum range of 3 (must start adjacent to him, and extend at most 3), thus hitting only if BB9 is in column E, F or G.

If your speed is 6, you could get to C14. From C14, I think you could aim a scorching burst at F19, hitting the goblin if he is in E, F or G.

Having Sir precede you would let you know if that strategy would work. Having me precede you isn't so good. My thought, if I go first, is to move/charge as far as G18, hopefully ending with a melee attack on BB9. Getting inside your area attack would not be part of my plan.

4Sigma might agree (he hasn't answered the question) that I could end my "charge" at C18 if I see BB9 in E,F or G. If he allowed that and I did, it would mean foregoing my melee attack for your area attack. Having me melee attack him seems better, since I would get an opportunity attack if that cowardly goblin ran away again on his next turn.

Sir K chose a different feat than the premade character, so his dragon breath is a close blast 5 instead of 3. A range of 5 gives us a legitimate chance.

[Gandalf]

Originally Posted by Htebazile

Sir K chose a different feat than the premade character, so his dragon breath is a close blast 5 instead of 3. A range of 5 gives us a legitimate chance.

Since he's the current DM, it can be whatever he wants. I suppose if he was previously saying it was 5 then there is a good reason. I wasn't relying on any character sheet. I was assuming his dragon breath was a dragonborn racial trait, which on page 34 of the PH is close blast 3. I'm not familiar enough with the PH to understand what other dragon breath he's using, or how customizing a character would let you make that trait stronger. Drinking plenty of firewater I could believe, for him and many others in the thread. I doubt it has become extra strong from failure to brush and floss regularly.

[Htebazile]

Originally Posted by Gandalf

Since he's the current DM, it can be whatever he wants. I suppose if he was previously saying it was 5 then there is a good reason. I wasn't relying on any character sheet. I was assuming his dragon breath was a dragonborn racial trait, which on page 34 of the PH is close blast 3. I'm not familiar enough with the PH to understand what other dragon breath he's using, or how customizing a character would let you make that trait stronger. Drinking plenty of firewater I could believe, for him and many others in the thread. I doubt it has become extra strong from failure to brush and floss regularly.

He has Enlarged Dragon Breath as his feat, instead of Healing Hands (which the premade paladin has). I don't know why I know that, but I've known for a while.