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Old 07-10-2003, 12:25 AM
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Hispanic Leaders Organize Boycott of Ted Nugent

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While performing as the opening act for the rock group KISS at a concert April 1 in Houston, Nugent was critical of those who can't speak English, telling them in a profanity-laced tirade to leave the United States and return to their native countries. He made similar comments at a concert in San Antonio a day earlier.

"We're not objecting to his right to free speech," said Charles Flores, director of LULAC's District 18 in Houston. "The way it was said, we feel it was directed in hatred at Hispanics."

Nugent remained unapologetic about his comments.
"If you're going to be an asset to America, it would only be logical to speak the language. How can you be a benefit to your family, neighborhood or country if you can't speak to your fellow citizens? C'mon, if you can't speak English, get out of America," Nugent said in an interview with the Houston Chronicle.

Nugent, who lives in Jackson County, Mich., is known as the "Motor City Madman" for his outrageous stage persona. He did not return several telephone calls from The Associated Press on Friday.

LULAC plans to ask the public not to buy any Nugent records and not to attend any of his concerts. The organization also is discussing the possibility of staging protests at upcoming Nugent concerts, Flores said.
http://www.detnews.com/2000/metro/0004/08/04080029.htm

Quick, someone find me a reason this is OK!
You mean why is the boycott OK? I disagree with it for the same reasons I have previously stated.
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Old 07-10-2003, 01:33 AM
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I like watching Conservative Contortionists...

Why do you say business needs to be deregulated, but society needs more prisons?

Why do you say the govt. needs to be smaller but increase the military?

Why do you say failing schools are proof money on education system is a waste, but FBI/CIA failure after failure only results in more money?
I said those things? I don't remember that ...
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Old 07-10-2003, 01:35 AM
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No contortion necessary. One statement was hate speech advocating the painful death of a specific person. The other was a statement about someone's political opinion.
He didn't advocate anything. He said "I hope you choke on a sausage" or something like that. A rude thing to say, and unpopular with most everyone. The Dixie Chicks were less offensive, but the principle is the same.

But I realize that for liberals to admit this would mean they'd need to defend Savage, so therefore we must change the principles we care about.
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Old 07-10-2003, 01:37 AM
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You mean why is the boycott OK? I disagree with it for the same reasons I have previously stated.

Pssst ... Nugent is conservative.
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Old 07-10-2003, 09:39 AM
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That sure shut him up. I suppose that since they've failed to bury it in nonsense, the dopey liberal apologists that populate this board will have to be content to let it float down the topic list.

If I were them, that's what I'd do, anyway. Why keep this humiliating thread alive?
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Old 07-10-2003, 10:11 AM
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Send in the clowns. Keep it up guys. I'd particularly like to hear more from Ronald Reagan and hatter. Every post you provide gives me that much more smug satisfaction that I am right. Serious. This is all very gratifying.
Smug was a well chosen word.
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Old 07-10-2003, 11:00 AM
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No contortion necessary. One statement was hate speech advocating the painful death of a specific person. The other was a statement about someone's political opinion.
He didn't advocate anything. He said "I hope you choke on a sausage" or something like that. A rude thing to say, and unpopular with most everyone. The Dixie Chicks were less offensive, but the principle is the same.

But I realize that for liberals to admit this would mean they'd need to defend Savage, so therefore we must change the principles we care about.
He said "you should get aids and die" while doing his job for his employer. His employer fired him for that. If I said that to someone at work, I would be fired too. I don't have a problem with that. The level of offensiveness is a factor. If I call someone a jerk at work, I wouldn't get fired.

This is only one level of difference in the situations.
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Old 07-10-2003, 11:04 AM
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Send in the clowns. Keep it up guys. I'd particularly like to hear more from Ronald Reagan and hatter. Every post you provide gives me that much more smug satisfaction that I am right. Serious. This is all very gratifying.
Smug was a well chosen word.
What can I tell you. It's not trash talk if it's true. My self-assuredness is very proper, thank you.
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Old 07-10-2003, 11:19 AM
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Baldwin's joke about stoning Hyde ...
I've heard lots of people refer to baldwin's statement as a "joke".

A joke? I want people to go to someone's house and kill them. HA HA HA.
I don't get the punchline.

Also--Baldwin statement was FAR worse than Savage's. First, he was talking about MURDER not simply wishing someone would die. Second, he..."jokingly"...was actually encouraging people to commit murder.

Ah ha.

Imagine the liberal apolectic fit if Rush said..."attention loyal listeners...I want to you gather at Ted Kennedy's estate and kill everyone inside....."
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Old 07-10-2003, 11:29 AM
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Baldwin's joke about stoning Hyde ...
I've heard lots of people refer to baldwin's statement as a "joke".

A joke? I want people to go to someone's house and kill them. HA HA HA.
I don't get the punchline.

Also--Baldwin statement was FAR worse than Savage's. First, he was talking about MURDER not simply wishing someone would die. Second, he..."jokingly"...was actually encouraging people to commit murder.

Ah ha.

Imagine the liberal apolectic fit if Rush said..."attention loyal listeners...I want to you gather at Ted Kennedy's estate and kill everyone inside....."
I think a better comparison would be Ahhhhnuld appearing on Letterman and laughing as he said "we should all go to Hillary's house and kill her" during a discussion about her healthcare proposal. That would be as moronic as Baldwin's statement and just as harmless.
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