Actuarial Outpost
 
Go Back   Actuarial Outpost > Exams - Please Limit Discussion to Exam-Related Topics > SoA/CAS Preliminary Exams > Exam 2/FM - Financial Mathematics
FlashChat Actuarial Discussion Preliminary Exams CAS/SOA Exams Cyberchat Around the World Suggestions

Berlin - Madrid - Rome - Paris - Hamburg - Warsaw
Barcelona - Vienna - Milan - Munich - Prague - Cologne
Actuarial Jobs in Europe
Athens - Amsterdam - Frankfurt - Copenhagen
Hannover - Dublin - Brussels - Lyon - Zurich


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-02-2009, 02:54 PM
notsmartatall notsmartatall is offline
Member
SOA
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 35
Default Exam Dates

I wonder there will be a different passing ratio if taking the exam earlier than later?

For example, assuming 22 corrects to get a 6, will it make a different if I am taking on May 5th or May 11th? I would think it should be the same; but my concern is that SOA will only pass a limited numbers of candidates (i.e. 40% passing), assuming on May 8th, there are about 35% passing candidates, will SOA generates harder questions so that they can limit another 5% candidates passing from May 9th to 11th?

Any thoughts?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-02-2009, 03:03 PM
gracyjoe gracyjoe is offline
Member
SOA
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: WI
Studying for ERMMod
College: UW-Whitewater Alumni
Favorite beer: Samuel Adams or Spotted Cow
Posts: 832
Default

Good thing I am taking it on May 8th!

I believe the questions are pulled from an already established pool that is not manipulated during the exam process.

What worries me is that the numbers were pretty good last testing so there may be much harder questions for all of us this time.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-02-2009, 03:40 PM
tommie frazier tommie frazier is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Favorite beer: The kind with 2 e's
Posts: 19,172
Default

i think your concerns are not worth worrying about. the pool of questions is set, as is the system that randomly generates each exam. they are really really reallly unlikely to manipulate it mid-sitting. if they do something like that, it would be between sittings, not between may 5th and may 11th. decisions like that (macro level type things) are likely the responsibility of an exam committee, made up of working professionals. they aren't sitting around waiting for results to roll in every hour so they can manipulate them-they are likely working for an employer who wants them to do some work.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-02-2009, 06:26 PM
notsmartatall notsmartatall is offline
Member
SOA
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 35
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tommie frazier View Post
i think your concerns are not worth worrying about. the pool of questions is set, as is the system that randomly generates each exam. they are really really reallly unlikely to manipulate it mid-sitting. if they do something like that, it would be between sittings, not between may 5th and may 11th. decisions like that (macro level type things) are likely the responsibility of an exam committee, made up of working professionals. they aren't sitting around waiting for results to roll in every hour so they can manipulate them-they are likely working for an employer who wants them to do some work.
I absolutely understand what you mean; however, I don't think they need "people" to sit around and wait for the results, but "programs" can easily do that ... that's what I am worry about ... you don't need anyone if answers and results are collected through computers ...

Besides, Gracyjoy brings up a point ... the passing rate was pretty high last time ... so ... Oh well, I think I am thinking too much ...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-02-2009, 09:25 PM
tommie frazier tommie frazier is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Favorite beer: The kind with 2 e's
Posts: 19,172
Default

i mean that they would not open themselves to claims of it becoming progressively easier/harder within the same window by seconding the job to a dynamic program. after the sitting, before the next one, they as a committee could tweak the algorithm I guess. but I consider the chances of the computer trying to level out an overall pass ratio on the fly as something they would not do.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
*PLEASE NOTE: Posts are not checked for accuracy, and do not
represent the views of the Actuarial Outpost or its sponsors.
Page generated in 0.13889 seconds with 7 queries