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I've decided to create a single fiasco-related thread, keeping track of individual stories of risk management failures and proposed fixes to prevent those particular troubles from occurring again [I guess shutting the barn doors will prevent the cows from getting out].
Anyway, to kick it off, I'll put up this from the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124052874488350333.html Quote:
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I read that article. The best quote in it is:
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Which reminds me, check out this:
http://soa.org/library/newsletters/s...2008-iss32.pdf Starting on page 1 is my article "Quit Paying for Business Education!" If you're not going to learn about responsibilities of the board to shareholders, at least don't pay for not learning it [or something]. Anyway, it's off-topic, but lots of good resources in that article. I have a followup coming out this July, I hope. |
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No one is paying to learn something, they're only paying to receive the three letter acronym. I also hope that people don't need a six figure education spanning multiple years to realize that if you are going to compensate me for simply making a deal, then I'm going to do whatever it takes to make the "deal", regardless of what the outcome is. Especially if the outcome is 5 or 10 years away, and can't be traced back to my actions.
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http://online.wsj.com/public/page/letters.html (can't find a permalink) Quote:
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I'd call this a reaction to current events:
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/a...articleid=2205 Quote:
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Interesting article.
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Carol Marler, FSA, MAAA, A Dedicated Actuary Just My Opinion (Although this statement is my opinion, and I am an actuary, it's still not a statement of actuarial opinion, and you really shouldn't rely on it.) Updated quotes Apr 4: Spoiler: |
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I don't know whether this is the best thread to post this comment in, but here goes anyway. I may have missed it, but I haven't seen any written comments regarding the lack of effectiveness of SOX and the auditing firms in heading off the current financial crisis. In short, the law resulting from Enron, etc., didn't prevent AIG, etc.
At this point, my opinion is that at least for the financial services industry, having an audit of accounting issues only is too narrow. It seems like a team of experts (including accountants) with diverse training, such as would be used in a due diligence for an acquisition, is needed to evaluate the status of a financial services entity. It seems to me that in general the public accounting firms are overpaid for the value they add to the process. It isn't always that they lack insurance expertise (though that is sometimes the case) but the scope of the audit is far too narrow. |
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I'm not sure what's going on with the whole Madoff thing right now (been quiet on that front lately - too many things to look at all over the place), but that sounded like a case where outsiders warned of issues, but the regulators were entirely ineffective, for whatever cause. I'm not sure that new rules would have necessarily fixed the situation, given that it's not clear the extant rules were being [rigorously] applied. |
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Perhaps it is semantics, but I believe individual concepts of right and wrong are relative. I am glad ethics is part of the code of conduct. One SoA exam I passed covered the code of conduct, so it I was required to know it. The fellowship admission test that began after my last exam covered the Equity Funding scandal. I actually saw the James Woods BBC movie on PBS before I took my first exam and first job. I later worked with people who, having worked at Equity Funding, knew those involved.
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