3 lies from the barbershop

[Rockhound]

Watched the movie "The Barbershop" over the weekend. In one scene, the old sage in the barbershop tells the youngsters that blacks will never get anywhere unless they give up the three great lies they all support, and to accept the truth.
Paraphrasing, the "truth" was:

1. Rodney King got what he had coming.
2. OJ is guilty
3. Rosa Parks didn't do anything special.

Thoughts:
1. I think when you commit a crime you forfeit lots of rights. Speeding away from police you forfeit more. I regret that whites aren't beat up as much as blacks in that situation.
2. Of course he's guilty.
3. In case you didn't see the movie, the point on this one was that Rosa Parks didn't do anything other blacks had not done. She became famous simply because she was a secretary in Dr. King's office. I don't know if that latter part is true, but even if it is, letting someone act as the symbol of an ideal is not a bad thing. Daniel Boone wasn't the only pioneer, but having a face to build a dream around is ok.

[4sigma]

1) I do not believe that Rodney King deserved what happened to him. However, it is true that when you break the law and antagonize the police, you put yourself at risk of being harmed by them. I believe that Rodney king was entitled to civil damages but the amount he received was in excess of what was merited.

2) OJ is not guilty. However, he did kill Ron and Nicole. Guilty is a legal term meaning that a jury of people whose are unemployed or whose employers will pay unlimited amounts of jury duty time (i.e. civil service employees) will determine that you have done this beyond a reasonable doubt.

3) I am not familiar enough with the specifics of the Rosa Parks case to comment on whether this is true or not.

[fallout]

Oj is not guilty.



This is a much more defendable position then the other.

The press had him guilty before the trial started. The only ones without the outside influence of the press were the 12 jurors in the criminal trial. They only saw evidence and not spin on evidence. They unaimously agreed that he was not guilty. If you want to take a look at media bias, here is a great example.

The media found him guilty which made the rest of the non-sequestered world also find him guilty. The facts of the case, i.e. evidence and witnesses with no media spin convinced 12 jurors unanimously that he was not guilty.

Seems simple to me.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

For more information on Rosa Parks, visit your local library!!
Or Yahoo! it.

http://www.grandtimes.com/rosa.html

http://www.holidays.net/mlk/rosa.htm

Was once secretary to President of NAACP. She was well-known in the Black (or Colored, which was the style at the time) community. She was not the first Colored person to be arrested for sitting at the front.
You have to figure that someone well-connected would eventually get arrested. Like Neil Armstrong and the moon landing, a name made famous for being associated with an important act.

(Yes, I edited it.)

[Double High C]

Originally Posted by Dr T Non-Fan

For more information on Rosa Parks, visit your local library!!
Or Yahoo! it.

http://www.grandtimes.com/rosa.html

http://www.holidays.net/mlk/rosa.htm

Was once secretary to President of NAACP. She was well-known in the Black (or Colored, which was the style at the time) community. She was not the first Colored person to be arrested for sitting at the front.
You have to figure that someone well-connected would eventually get arrested. Like Neil Armstrong on the moon. A name made famous for being associated with an important act.

Neil Armstrong was arrested on the moon?

[4sigma]

I didn't know he was arrested. I thought he just refused to move to the back of the capsule.

[2pac Shakur]

Anybody ever seen gum on a barbershop floor?

[4sigma]

Have you noticed how chewing gum is more expensive nowadays?

D*mn Ken Lay and the Republicans for driving up gum prices and gouging gum-chewers!

[Werewolf]

Originally Posted by Rockhound

Watched the movie "The Barbershop" over the weekend. In one scene, the old sage in the barbershop tells the youngsters that blacks will never get anywhere unless they give up the three great lies they all support, and to accept the truth.
Paraphrasing, the "truth" was:

1. Rodney King got what he had coming.
2. OJ is guilty
3. Rosa Parks didn't do anything special.

Thoughts:
1. I think when you commit a crime you forfeit lots of rights. Speeding away from police you forfeit more. I regret that whites aren't beat up as much as blacks in that situation.
2. Of course he's guilty.
3. In case you didn't see the movie, the point on this one was that Rosa Parks didn't do anything other blacks had not done. She became famous simply because she was a secretary in Dr. King's office. I don't know if that latter part is true, but even if it is, letting someone act as the symbol of an ideal is not a bad thing. Daniel Boone wasn't the only pioneer, but having a face to build a dream around is ok.

For 1., everyone forgets the uninjured black man in the car when Rodney King was arrested. Something the world will never know... if Rodney King had stayed down, would the officers have kept beating him? In other words, were the police officers reacting due to their racism, or their training on how to handle a dangerous criminal who appeared to be on PCP?

[Rockhound]

Originally Posted by fallout

Oj is not guilty.



This is a much more defendable position then the other.

The press had him guilty before the trial started. The only ones without the outside influence of the press were the 12 jurors in the criminal trial. They only saw evidence and not spin on evidence. They unaimously agreed that he was not guilty. If you want to take a look at media bias, here is a great example.

The media found him guilty which made the rest of the non-sequestered world also find him guilty. The facts of the case, i.e. evidence and witnesses with no media spin convinced 12 jurors unanimously that he was not guilty.

Seems simple to me.

Jurers in the civil trial found him guilty.