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Old 09-20-2003, 11:49 AM
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I mentioned something about not reading long posts in another thread. That's not entirely true. I always read Paddy's.
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Old 09-20-2003, 12:02 PM
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The Saddam we invaded in 2003 is the EXACT same Saddam we aided in th 1980s.
What happened since then?
Did America collectively research the Middle East and say we need a change of policy? NO!
The same people profiting off Saddam's rise to power, decided it would be more profitable to take Saddam out. And America went along with it.
Same thing happened with former CIA asset Bin Laden.

As soon as these powers that be decide they no longer need another friend, they will tell us who that is.

Saudi Arabia? Maybe
Pakistan? Maybe
Iran? Maybe

And we can promptly decide to start hating that country.



I'm surprised you put Chavez on the list EB.
He is the ONLY democratically elected OPEC leader.
I can see why that's not good.
Speaking of democracy, I have a question:
Is America the only country in the world that has the electoral college system? Are there any other countries that call themselves a democracy, with a leader that won less than a plurality?
Thank you.
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Old 09-20-2003, 12:17 PM
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The Saddam we invaded in 2003 is the EXACT same Saddam we aided in th 1980s.
Get over it. You've got one business deal and you replay that song over and over and over and over.... We've linked to the saddam memorial military buildup graph and we've found that Iraq got an astounding 1% of it's arms directly or indirectly from America, and he got some advice when he was losing a war to Iran. Which leadership we're not too fond of, either.
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What happened since then?
He fended off Iran.
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Did America collectively research the Middle East and say we need a change of policy? NO!
America couldn't collectively decide what to eat for dinner.
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The same people profiting off Saddam's rise to power, decided it would be more profitable to take Saddam out. And America went along with it.
Same thing happened with former CIA asset Bin Laden.
Once a friend, always a friend?

Didn't you mention how lovingly you were protecting Germany? How long ago was that... last week? And this week he had to retreat to Switzerland.

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As soon as these powers that be decide they no longer need another friend, they will tell us who that is.
It's fairly clear to anyone with a brain.
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Saudi Arabia? Maybe
Pakistan? Maybe
Iran? Maybe
Come now, Iranians are good, but Iran hasn't been a friend since Khomeni overthrew the Shah.
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And we can promptly decide to start hating that country.



I'm surprised you put Chavez on the list EB.
He is the ONLY democratically elected OPEC leader.
I can see why that's not good.
Speaking of democracy, I have a question:
Is America the only country in the world that has the electoral college system? Are there any other countries that call themselves a democracy, with a leader that won less than a plurality?
Thank you.
Chavez is head-over-heels for Castro and has his thugs out terrorizing the populace. He won't stay in power through democratic means. Let's not forget that he led a coup against his government once. Of course it was unsuccessful.

And like all self-important grandioziers (sp? is it a word? it fits.) he has a penchant for ultra-long-winded speeches, having been timed at 4 hours plus. Rule of thumb, when a person keeps you listening for multiple hours listening to his speech, it's probably not because he thinks you're salivating on every word.
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Old 09-20-2003, 02:57 PM
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The reason they are not going to go away is because there was no immenent threat from Iraq, no WMDs, and no link to 9/11.
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Don't believe those who say they aren't there just because we haven't found them. Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," Butler told the crowd. "Iraq certainly did have weapons of mass destruction. Trust me. I held some in my own hands.
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Hope I didn't inconvience you.
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That's funny, I don't remember anyone saying before the war that we should invade Iraq so that it could turn into some kind of obvious target for terrorists.
Do you feel that a wartime president should explain his plans to you in advance? Would you prefer a private briefing or would a network broadcast be sufficient?
You're kidding me. I don't remember anyone at all even speculating along these lines. And you know why? The idea doesn't make any sense. You know that, don't you?
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Old 09-20-2003, 05:30 PM
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That's funny, I don't remember anyone saying before the war that we should invade Iraq so that it could turn into some kind of obvious target for terrorists.
Do you feel that a wartime president should explain his plans to you in advance? Would you prefer a private briefing or would a network broadcast be sufficient?
You're kidding me. I don't remember anyone at all even speculating along these lines. And you know why? The idea doesn't make any sense. You know that, don't you?
He's sharp, this ln guy. Can't slip anything past him.
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Old 09-20-2003, 09:53 PM
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The reason they are not going to go away is because there was no immenent threat from Iraq, no WMDs, and no link to 9/11.
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Originally Posted by Richard Butler, chief UN weapons inspector for Iraq
Don't believe those who say they aren't there just because we haven't found them. Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," Butler told the crowd. "Iraq certainly did have weapons of mass destruction. Trust me. I held some in my own hands.
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Hope I didn't inconvience you.
Well, I'm, convinced.
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Old 09-20-2003, 09:58 PM
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That's funny, I don't remember anyone saying before the war that we should invade Iraq so that it could turn into some kind of obvious target for terrorists.
Do you feel that a wartime president should explain his plans to you in advance? Would you prefer a private briefing or would a network broadcast be sufficient?
You're kidding me. I don't remember anyone at all even speculating along these lines. And you know why? The idea doesn't make any sense. You know that, don't you?
I'm not sure if he does. I get the impression he actually thinks this was Bush's hidden agenda all the time.
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Old 09-20-2003, 10:10 PM
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I'm not sure if he does. I get the impression he actually thinks this was Bush's hidden agenda all the time.
He thinks whatever the phants tell him to think. I truly never understood what Paddy meant when he went on and on about people mindlessly following whatever they were told by their "betters" until I started paying attention to EB's posts.
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Old 09-20-2003, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RF Poster George W Bush with long tongue
The reason they are not going to go away is because there was no immenent threat from Iraq, no WMDs, and no link to 9/11.
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Originally Posted by Richard Butler, chief UN weapons inspector for Iraq
Don't believe those who say they aren't there just because we haven't found them. Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," Butler told the crowd. "Iraq certainly did have weapons of mass destruction. Trust me. I held some in my own hands.
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Hope I didn't inconvience you.
What did he hold in his hands?
Anthrax? Botulism toxins? A nuclear bomb? Smallpox?
He must have one HELL of an immune system.
Probably eats a lot of vegetables.
Sounds like more of W's "darn good intelligence."
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