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Old 07-15-2009, 11:31 AM
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So I was reading this horriffic story (thanks, cnn!) and it got me thinking....if you are innocent of raping and killing your 3-year old daughter, why would you EVER confess to it? Don't get me wrong, I do believe the father is innocent...I'm just wondering what techniques are used to get someone to falsely admit to something like this.

I was thinking that part of it could be that the father felt a lot of guilt over not being able to stop what happened (because he was home when the kid was snatched).

Anywhoo, if anyone has any insights or links...Thanks!
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:35 AM
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It helps when the suspect is young and has a low IQ. There is a profile for coerced false confessors. Badgering them for an extended period of time is often a factor. (may have happened in the case of Amanda Knox)

My own introduction to the phenomenon was the case of the Central Park jogger, and an article in Harpers about a guy badgered into confessing to the murder of his sister.

I have my own problem with cops...
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:38 AM
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So I was reading this horriffic story (thanks, cnn!) and it got me thinking....if you are innocent of raping and killing your 3-year old daughter, why would you EVER confess to it? Don't get me wrong, I do believe the father is innocent...I'm just wondering what techniques are used to get someone to falsely admit to something like this.
Didn't people say that waterboarding was bad partly because it was so torturous that people would confess to anything?
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There was a GREAT episode of Homicide: Life on the Streets, where to prove a point, one detective goes into a room, plays good cop AND bad cop, and totally sweet talks a confession from a guy who's buddy just got killed.

Pembleton: You sent him on that drug deal, didn't you?
Innocent Guy: [sobbing] Yes
Pembleton: The one where he got killed
Innocent Guy: Yes
Pembleton: You feel that guilt, don't you.
Innocent Guy: Yes
Pembleton: Almost like you the one that pulled the trigger
Innocent Guy: [sobs]
Pembleton: You killed your best friend
Innocent Guy: [sobbing] I didn't...
Pembleton: But you feel it. In your heart. Say it. Say, "I killed my best friend"
Innocent Guy: I killed my best friend!
Pembleton: Sign this piece of paper right here.
Innocent Guy: [signs paper]
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:40 AM
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If you torture someone long enough they'll admit to anything. That doesn't really relate to this example but it could be used for some of the Gitmo stuff.
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My husband and I spend too much time watching true crime shows. Most of the time my husband asks, "why doesn't this person get a lawyer?". At least now they videotape these sessions- but the interrogators will keep someone from 2 PM to 2 AM, without a lawyer and ask, "well, IF you had done it, how would you have done it?" They're also allowed to lie, as in "we have witnesses who can place you at the scene of the crime around the time of the victim's death" when they have nothing. And generally it's the poorer, less intelligent who don't realize that if they're not being charged, they can demand to be released and if they ARE being charged, they can ask to have an attorney present.
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What shows do you watch, Salzmann?
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Didn't people say that waterboarding was bad partly because it was so torturous that people would confess to anything?
Yeah, but I don't think local cops use that technique, do they?
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So I was reading this horriffic story (thanks, cnn!) and it got me thinking....if you are innocent of raping and killing your 3-year old daughter, why would you EVER confess to it? Don't get me wrong, I do believe the father is innocent...I'm just wondering what techniques are used to get someone to falsely admit to something like this.

I was thinking that part of it could be that the father felt a lot of guilt over not being able to stop what happened (because he was home when the kid was snatched).

Anywhoo, if anyone has any insights or links...Thanks!
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You badger them until they are tired and confused and they confess to put an end to it. There is a whole science behind the technique. It's very effective at getting confessions from guilty people too, so it isn't completely without merit.

Also, it helps to convince them that you have enough evidence to convict them anyway, and they will get a suspended sentence if they simply confess.
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