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This thread is intended to be a brief recapitulation of why we are asking for proxies for the upcoming academy meeting. We do not want to have another monster thread, so I am asking everyone to please stay on topic.
First, Tom's candidate statement. Note that this is a work in progress and may be edited from time to time. I quote excerpts from the version out there today. http://www.bakosenterprises.com/Candidate/ Quote:
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http://www.bakosenterprises.com/Byla...%20Diagram.pdf
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Carol Marler, FSA, MAAA, A Dedicated Actuary Just My Opinion (Although this statement is my opinion, and I am an actuary, it's still not a statement of actuarial opinion, and you really shouldn't rely on it.) Updated quotes Aug 30: Spoiler: Last edited by JMO; 10-21-2009 at 11:34 AM.. Reason: add link to the diagram |
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The above is all true, but it's not the impetus behind this push to get Tom elected - it's simply another example of the AAA board ignoring members wishes as well as any kind of common sense.
What caused the initial stir was the AAA board getting rid of Bruce Schobel as President Elect, with no discussion or clear reason. It had all the looks of personal and political agendas from the board. Bruce won $600,000 in a settlement from the AAA who admitted no wrongdoing. Bruce agreed in the settlement not to run for AAA board for a couple of years. For those that believe the AAA board is acting with personal and political (and perhaps monetary) agendas, this stipulation adds fuel to the fire. At least one AAA board member stated at the meeting where Bruce was turfed, that the reason for his removal was Bruce's opposition to FEM. Of course that's not a reason to get rid of a President elect, and this is compounded by the appearance that some tried to smear Bruce's reputation to make this happen. That action against Bruce led many people to believe that the AAA board is running out of control and needs to be stopped by the membership. The information that JMO's posted above concerning the rearrangement of the board's make up is not the primary cause of this contested election. It's simply amptjer example in a long string of events showing how the AAA board is acting with disregard to it's membership. My summary is clearly biased by my interpretation of the events. If you are an AAA member, you owe it to yourself to discern facts, of which there are some, and decide if you draw the same conclusions I and many others have. |
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My take on the Schobel case is that it brought to light the governance issue. But even if the Schobel thing had never occurred, there are important issues, and we should focus on them.
We are specifically concerned about action by the existing Academy leadership to attempt to change the bylaws to further increase their power. The membership ought to be electing the entire board, and our next step (this is no secret) is to work on a total overhaul of the way the Academy is governed through amending the bylaws. More on that in the future. Who was it said that power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely? (I think it's an overstatement, but many people who get power do tend to exercise it unrighteously.)
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![]() The Schobel issue is somewhat of a distraction, and as someone said, it brings personalities into this when that is not really the main issue. The main issue is that the board seems to make arbitrary changes without membership approval that strip away the rights of the membership. Maybe this always happened, but the Bruce situation brought it all to light.
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A quote from the blackest pot ever:"You would save a lot of time if you just made the point, and be done with it." Last edited by Me Too; 10-15-2009 at 01:05 PM.. Reason: Added new last quote |
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Thanks, MeToo. That's exactly what we wanted this thread to do.
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Carol Marler, FSA, MAAA, A Dedicated Actuary Just My Opinion (Although this statement is my opinion, and I am an actuary, it's still not a statement of actuarial opinion, and you really shouldn't rely on it.) Updated quotes Aug 30: Spoiler: |
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YES - I agree - Thanks MeToo for your comprehensive summary.
The incredible thing is that as I read through it the Academy leadership actions sounded so wierd as to be almost to hard to believe. Yet what MeToo summarized is a recitation of fact. Have you noticed that it seems every time the Academy leadership needs to make a decision, they either don't or they make the wrong one? Maybe they should ask the members. Keep those proxies coming - pass word to others you know - we are going to make a difference. I will be out this afternoon so may not be able to monitor this discussion. We have visitors coming plus I have to go out and get a couple of more ribbons for my fax machine.
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TomB Tom Bakos, FSA, MAAA Currently: SOA Board member - VP 2008 - 2010 |
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I share the perspective of many about the attitudes and mindset of those running the AAA (& the SOA, FTM) and would certainly not mind someone shaking things up a bit. But what I'm concerned about is the possibility that Tom Bakos is a "stalking horse" for Bruce Schobel (to get around the agreement that the latter not run) and/or that this is an extension of the BS president-elect affair.
Not that I have anything against BS, and I might well vote for him if offered that option at some later point. But what concerns me at this particular time is the possible intention to continue the fight over the BS removal (in which Tom has been heavily involved) and settle scores with those involved, which I don't think is in the interests of the AAA at this time. |
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