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Old 10-19-2009, 07:42 PM
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I've been wondering what firms are the most sought after by actuaries in the USA or even worldwide for that matter.

I am most interested in the excitement of the job (motivation/spunk of the average person working there) , pay, and relevance/high-profile nature of the job.

I cannot stress how important i think creating a stimulating enviroment is. You can take some pretty mundane issues and make them very exciting if you work with the right type of people. So my question might be reduced to where in actuarial are those people most likely to be working?

Yea, i know some will joke they're not working in actuarial, but i honestly belive that the demographics of the actuarial society are quickly changing (and for the better) so there's got to be something out there.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:22 PM
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I've been wondering what firms are the most sought after by actuaries in the USA or even worldwide for that matter.

I am most interested in the excitement of the job (motivation/spunk of the average person working there) , pay, and relevance/high-profile nature of the job.

I cannot stress how important i think creating a stimulating enviroment is. You can take some pretty mundane issues and make them very exciting if you work with the right type of people. So my question might be reduced to where in actuarial are those people most likely to be working?

Yea, i know some will joke they're not working in actuarial, but i honestly belive that the demographics of the actuarial society are quickly changing (and for the better) so there's got to be something out there.
Just to add to this question, if you could work for Allstate, Statefarm, or CNA, which would you pick and why?
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You know those aren't actuarial firms right?
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AIG, or Towers Perrin....until they lay you off.
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Just to add to this question, if you could work for Allstate, Statefarm, or CNA, which would you pick and why?
CNA - location. Only one in a city. QED.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:44 AM
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AIG? Thats surprising isn't it considering that they are on the downslope. The upside to AIG used to "seem" to me that since they were such a diverse company you would be able to work on / have the opportunity to do many diverse things. However, with AIG having the govt double checking its moves the pay is going to go downhill (already has), its stability is questionable, and so its going to lose its most talented people - so much for exciting.

CNA? What is that? What city?

Tower Perrin is the only one i could think of my self. Is there seriously no other firm???
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:27 AM
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What makes Towers Perrin better than firms like Hewitt, Mercer?
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AIG? Thats surprising isn't it considering that they are on the downslope. The upside to AIG used to "seem" to me that since they were such a diverse company you would be able to work on / have the opportunity to do many diverse things. However, with AIG having the govt double checking its moves the pay is going to go downhill (already has), its stability is questionable, and so its going to lose its most talented people - so much for exciting.

CNA? What is that? What city?

Tower Perrin is the only one i could think of my self. Is there seriously no other firm???
Isn't AIG ~79% publicly owned? Does that mean they can't go bankrupt unless the government goes bankrupt? Really, how does that work? My head hurts just thinking about it.
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You know those aren't actuarial firms right?
You do know that Allstate, CNA, and Statefarm are all major employers of P&C actuaries right?
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What makes Towers Perrin better than firms like Hewitt, Mercer?
the extra hours and constant fear of impending doom
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