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Old 10-23-2009, 05:08 PM
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Default a single point in a continuous distribution?

I am suddenly very confused about a single point in a continuous distribution.

I know P(X=x)=0 for any continuous dist. based on the definition.

But in a lot of questions or reality, let's model loss size using 2-pareto dist. altha=2, theta=1,000.

What if I ask 'what is the probabilyt of the loss size = 500?

May I use f(x)=*** to get the probablity? Thanks!
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:28 PM
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If the loss distribution is continuous (including, for example, 2 parameter theta), then the probability (Loss=500) = 0.

If there are coverage modifications, a continuous loss distribution could create some point masses of payments. In particular, if there is an ordinary deductible, then P(Payment=0) can be positive. If there is a maximum payment amount, then P(Payment=maximum) can be positive.
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:36 PM
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I am suddenly very confused about a single point in a continuous distribution.

I know P(X=x)=0 for any continuous dist. based on the definition.

But in a lot of questions or reality, let's model loss size using 2-pareto dist. altha=2, theta=1,000.

What if I ask 'what is the probabilyt of the loss size = 500?

May I use f(x)=*** to get the probablity? Thanks!
Or for example when you do a discrete Bayesian problem where losses follow a Pareto. You observe 2 losses of 100 and 200, you would take f(100)f(200) to get the probability of observing that outcome for the given individual.
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:38 PM
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I think the OP is thinking about Bayesian credibility where the model distribution can easily be pareto and they give you 1 or 2 losses and you need a f(x|theta)>0 somewhere in that mess..
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:43 PM
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Thsi is my concern actually. Why can you use f(100) and f(200) here?


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Or for example when you do a discrete Bayesian problem where losses follow a Pareto. You observe 2 losses of 100 and 200, you would take f(100)f(200) to get the probability of observing that outcome for the given individual.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:31 PM
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My undertanding of this is that when you plug a number into f(x) say 100 or 200 and get .2932 or .3431 or whatever; you are not truly getting the probability of exactly 100 (in other words not 100.01 or 100.001 or 100.00001 or etc or 99.9 or 99.99 or 99.9999 but exactly 100.0000000000000000....).

But instead what you are getting the probability density at point 100 and if it's .2932 then the density at 99.9 and 100.01 are probably pretty close to .2932 (maybe a little more, maybe a little less).

But no when you plug 100 or 200 into f(x) it is not the same thing as rolling a dice and having a 1/6 probability of getting exactly a 3.
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, which is 0 [unless there's a point mass]. (This is called a probability function)

is defined as (probability density function).
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, which is 0 [unless there's a point mass]. (This is called a probability function)

is defined as (probability density function).

In other words, f(x) ^=P(X=x), right?
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In other words, f(x) ^=P(X=x), right?
Let's try x=1 for [0,1] (uniform on [0,1]).
f(x)=1;

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