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Old 10-22-2010, 09:26 AM
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There are probably more but that is the first one I could find that said 10 hour battery life...there were a few that had 8.75hr.

Anyway on the whole topic. I find a lot of apple supporters make up little reasons on how they use whatever they buy. They buy it because it is apple and they find reasons to use it, obviously. Then they feel the need to validate their purchase and go on and on about how everything apple makes is the best.

Anyway, Ill stay out of your apple thread, I have no use for their products.
I simply believe in buying the right tool for the job. That said, I'm also a fan of technology, and I'm fascinated by the impact it has on culture. I respect Apple a great deal as an innovator, and I think even people who don't buy Apple products benefit a great deal from Apple's presence.

I sometimes play devil's advocate with myself and ponder whether I'm buying something "just because." If I had bought the iPad and only used it to play games, etc. occassionally, I would have realized that it was just a toy that I probably could have done without.

But considering that I use the iPad just about every single day to both create and consume things, I know that my life is better with it, so it was worth every penny I spent on it.

I've always enjoyed reading, but now I read more because the iPad makes it easier to buy, read, and annotate books. I'm more connected to personal and professional networks. I'm able to write about things I enjoy and efficiently sync all of that using cloud services.

There is no extra effort to move data on or off the iPad thanks to Dropbox, Simplenote, etc. So I really just view the iPad as an extension of my workflow. It's a tool that does some things really well, and there's no cost to shift back and forth from that tool when I need to.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:49 AM
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Its not over priced junk, they are nice machines, but overpriced none the less
Only in the way that business-grade laptops are over-priced compared to consumer-grade laptops. Yeah, you can get the same specs for less money, but the machine isn't as well made. We are a mixed-OS household. I have used a Mac laptop for years, we got the kids Windows boxes for compatiblity with school stuff, and my husband usually has some dual-boot desktop device, currently Mac and Linux, I believe. Anyhow, we've bought cheap Windows laptops for the kids, and they tend to break. I keep my laptop for 5-8 years, theirs tend to break after 2-3.

And no, they aren't a lot rougher on their machines than I am on mine. I use mine in bed and on the couch with cats walking all over it. I carry it without a protective case - I just slide it into whatever bag I am carrying. My daughter, in contrast is very careful with her computer and uses it mostly on the dining room table, and it gets moved only rarely. (mostly to use the table as a table.)

Now, the windows laptop I have at work holds up to a lot of wear and tear, too, but it costs as much as a comparable Mac.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:39 AM
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Only in the way that business-grade laptops are over-priced compared to consumer-grade laptops. Yeah, you can get the same specs for less money, but the machine isn't as well made. We are a mixed-OS household. I have used a Mac laptop for years, we got the kids Windows boxes for compatiblity with school stuff, and my husband usually has some dual-boot desktop device, currently Mac and Linux, I believe. Anyhow, we've bought cheap Windows laptops for the kids, and they tend to break. I keep my laptop for 5-8 years, theirs tend to break after 2-3.

And no, they aren't a lot rougher on their machines than I am on mine. I use mine in bed and on the couch with cats walking all over it. I carry it without a protective case - I just slide it into whatever bag I am carrying. My daughter, in contrast is very careful with her computer and uses it mostly on the dining room table, and it gets moved only rarely. (mostly to use the table as a table.)

Now, the windows laptop I have at work holds up to a lot of wear and tear, too, but it costs as much as a comparable Mac.
Macs are definitely well made and live longer comppared to the average PC laptop. It's reflected in the market for used Macbooks. Just look on ebay. I recently sold a basic white 2-yr old Macbook for $500. No way I could have gotten that for PC laptop with the same specs.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:41 AM
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Macs are definitely well made and live longer comppared to the average PC laptop. It's reflected in the market for used Macbooks. Just look on ebay. I recently sold a basic white 2-yr old Macbook for $500. No way I could have gotten that for PC laptop with the same specs.
Doesn't necessarily say anything other than there is no market for $500 Macs except for the used market. Were there new Macs in this price range, you wouldn't get the same results.
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Macs are definitely well made and live longer comppared to the average PC laptop. It's reflected in the market for used Macbooks. Just look on ebay. I recently sold a basic white 2-yr old Macbook for $500. No way I could have gotten that for PC laptop with the same specs.
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Bitching about the iPhone from an iPhone devotee.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...-is-the-worst/

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It seems crazy that iOS still doesn’t support widgets. Widgets are great for grabbing information at a glance, and Apple’s competitors all make wonderful use of widget systems. But not Apple. I want to see the current weather in an instant. I want to see if I have any upcoming calendar appointments without a single tap. I want to see a small collection of items from my to do list. And so on. It’s a little scary that Apple realized how nifty it would be to show the current date on the Calendar icon but it hasn’t yet extended that functionality elsewhere.
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http://scobleizer.com/2010/10/22/sta...dows-is-risky/

interesting article on a lot of different topics we have been talking about on this forum.

My favorite line:
"If we were in 2000, instead of 2010, Gillett wouldn’t have kept his job if he tried betting against Microsoft. But today his customers are forcing him to."
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Bitching about the iPhone from an iPhone devotee.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...-is-the-worst/

Here is the part that resounded with me most due to my love of Android widgets:
I will miss widgets if/when I leave Android for the iPhone. Having my tasks, calendar, and weather on my home screen is really nice.

I believe that eventually iOS will have a similar capability. I can't imagine that iOS will always look the way it does today -- uniform screens of apps.
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:29 PM
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http://scobleizer.com/2010/10/22/sta...dows-is-risky/

interesting article on a lot of different topics we have been talking about on this forum.

My favorite line:
"If we were in 2000, instead of 2010, Gillett wouldn’t have kept his job if he tried betting against Microsoft. But today his customers are forcing him to."
I agree with most of the sentiment in that article. Let's face it. MS is riding a wave that started in the 1990s, but it hasn't done much on the consumer (non-gaming) front since. You can't expect to ride a wave like that forever and ever -- not given the rate of innovation today.

People will probably continue to call me crazy until it happens, but I really believe mobile OSes will bleed into and rip the conventional consumer PC market to shreds in the coming decade. There is so much money and focus on that right now, it's unreal. And the fact that hardware companies like HP are turning their backs on Windows as a viable option for consumer electronics like tablets tells me that all that focus is on non-MS OSes like Android, WebOS, etc.

MS's future is in the cloud running high-performance computers that crunch the torrent of data created by mobile technology. That will be a huge market too, but consumers won't see it.
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:40 PM
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I agree with most of the sentiment in that article. Let's face it. MS is riding a wave that started in the 1990s, but it hasn't done much on the consumer (non-gaming) front since. You can't expect to ride a wave like that forever and ever -- not given the rate of innovation today.

People will probably continue to call me crazy until it happens, but I really believe mobile OSes will bleed into and rip the conventional consumer PC market to shreds in the coming decade. There is so much money and focus on that right now, it's unreal. And the fact that hardware companies like HP are turning their backs on Windows as a viable option for consumer electronics like tablets tells me that all that focus is on non-MS OSes like Android, WebOS, etc.

MS's future is in the cloud running high-performance computers that crunch the torrent of data created by mobile technology. That will be a huge market too, but consumers won't see it.
I think MS will have tough time competing in that too. Amazon's EC2 is already set up and running nicely. (I will share a tutorial of how to set up EC2 later) . Google is a pioneer in clouding that since they have been using it for its core business of online search for a long time. Google is known to buy outdated computers, plug in some vm software and add to its network.

W7 is nice, very nice. Whatever MS do, if they can keep making things of the same quality as W7, I think they will be fine. But if they pull craps like kin and the failed tablet launch, they will have more trouble down the road.
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