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Old 03-25-2010, 10:05 AM
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Default The Federalist No. 45

Written by James Madison in 1788, attempting to convince the people that the states would not be surrendering too much power to the new federal government under the proposed constitution.

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa45.htm

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The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.

The operations of the federal government will be most extensive and important in times of war and danger; those of the State governments, in times of peace and security. As the former periods will probably bear a small proportion to the latter, the State governments will here enjoy another advantage over the federal government. The more adequate, indeed, the federal powers may be rendered to the national defense, the less frequent will be those scenes of danger which might favor their ascendancy over the governments of the particular States.
James, meet Barack. You two have lots to talk about.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:12 AM
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Perhaps you should forward this to Andrew Jackson and every president since.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:16 AM
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Since the founding of our country the federal government has gradually gotten more and more power. It's definitely the trend of things. Definitely not saying I agree with it, just saying it's been going on for as long as we've been a country.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:17 AM
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Madison invokes '10th amendment.'
Obama cackles.
Obama invokes 'commerce clause.'
Madison chuckles.
SCOTUS chortles and rules.
Madison has been killed.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:22 AM
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Perhaps you should forward this to Andrew Jackson and every president since.
In other words, people who argue that seeing "shades of gray" is better than viewing everything in black & white terms are wrong.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:41 AM
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In other words, people who argue that seeing "shades of gray" is better than viewing everything in black & white terms are wrong.
Bingo !!!

There are no shades of gray. There's right and there's wrong. I'm right; you're wrong.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:46 AM
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I’m right Barack is wrong.
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Forward this to Lincoln while you're at it. If I'm reading this correctly, the South had no need to sucede from the union because the Emancipation Proclamation is unconstitutional. Am I missing something?
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Forward this to Lincoln while you're at it. If I'm reading this correctly, the South had no need to sucede from the union because the Emancipation Proclamation is unconstitutional. Am I missing something?
Besides the fact that the Emancipation Proclamation occurred after the South seceded and didn't free any slaves in states that remained in the Union?
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Forward this to Lincoln while you're at it. If I'm reading this correctly, the South had no need to sucede from the union because the Emancipation Proclamation is unconstitutional. Am I missing something?
You mean other than the secession was before the proclamation?

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