The Official "I Recently Got Hired" Thread

[El hijo actuario]

Originally Posted by PhildeTruth

Dear Jigsaw,

Spot-on analysis here.

Regards,

PhildeTruth

You two should get a room.

[Scars]

Originally Posted by Jigsaw

It probably amuses Phil because you are very serious to get a 4.0, yet you choose such an uncompetitive unimaginative weak sauce major - actuarial science.

[insert tallest midget joke here]

Originally Posted by PhildeTruth

Dear Jigsaw,

Spot-on analysis here.

Regards,

PhildeTruth

Your analysis on what it takes to get a 4.0 is laughably inaccurate. Anyway, I chose my major before I knew that I didn't need the major to be in the field. Thank you so very much for holding this against me

PdT: You know what cracks me up about you? You seem to think it's impressive that you were a chronic underachiever in school and have turned out successful. Better yet, you've done such a good job flaunting this that you've convinced others that you've done well. The fact that you decided to not put forth any effort in school doesn't tell me anything about you. Your condescending and, frankly, immature approach to giving "advice" tells me plenty about what you think of yourself. It's not a pretty picture.

[PhildeTruth]

Originally Posted by Scars

Your analysis on what it takes to get a 4.0 is laughably inaccurate. Anyway, I chose my major before I knew that I didn't need the major to be in the field. Thank you so very much for holding this against me

You're welcome.

Originally Posted by Scars

PdT: You know what cracks me up about you? You seem to think it's impressive that you were a chronic underachiever in school and have turned out successful.

I don't think it's impressive, but many of my college peers who thought I'd never get hired, and many folks on the AO do think it is. Especially those losers on the careers employment forum who told me I "was in no shape" to pass an actuarial exam.

Originally Posted by Scars

Better yet, you've done such a good job flaunting this that you've convinced others that you've done well. The fact that you decided to not put forth any effort in school doesn't tell me anything about you. Your condescending and, frankly, immature approach to giving "advice" tells me plenty about what you think of yourself. It's not a pretty picture.

If my comments appear condescending, that tells me where I am in relation to you. Anyone who is confident with themselves would not find my comments condescending.

[Scars]

Originally Posted by PhildeTruth

You're welcome.

Well played.

I don't think it's impressive, but many of my college peers who thought I'd never get hired, and many folks on the AO do think it is. Especially those losers on the careers employment forum who told me I "was in no shape" to pass an actuarial exam.

Nice deflection. This doesn't explain why you take the high ground anytime GPA is being mentioned. Especially since you have no standing.

If my comments appear condescending, that tells me where I am in relation to you. Anyone who is confident with themselves would not find my comments condescending.

You assume that I was insulted or hurt by the comments. Recognizing a condescending remark does not mean anything other than exactly that - I recognized it. The fact that you're ignorant enough to think that what you're saying is NOT condescending is where the picture you paint of yourself gets very, very ugly.

[Dismal Science]

[PhildeTruth]

Originally Posted by Scars

Nice deflection. This doesn't explain why you take the high ground anytime GPA is being mentioned. Especially since you have no standing.

GPA matters at good schools, it means very little at mediocre schools (ie: Uconn). However if the GPA is lower at a mediocre school, that is a red flag in my book and I wouldn't hire him/her. Coincidence or not, just about every top firm out there agrees with me.

Originally Posted by Scars

You assume that I was insulted or hurt by the comments. Recognizing a condescending remark does not mean anything other than exactly that - I recognized it. The fact that you're ignorant enough to think that what you're saying is NOT condescending is where the picture you paint of yourself gets very, very ugly.

Condescending is all relative. If you say schools in your neighborhood are "good", you immediately imply that schools in another neighborhood are "bad", as everything is measured relative to an average or median school. If a person from a said neighborhood were standing next to you, your comment would be "condescending".

Good luck going through life trying to make everyone feel happy. I'm just trying to help as many people as I can.

[El hijo actuario]

My favorite is how Phil likes to bash my 400 every chance he gets, yet his 2.4 is his proudest accomplishment.

[Scars]

Originally Posted by PhildeTruth

GPA matters at good schools, it means very little at mediocre schools (ie: Uconn). However if the GPA is lower at a mediocre school, that is a red flag in my book and I wouldn't hire him/her. Coincidence or not, just about every top firm out there agrees with me.

Basically, you wouldn't have hired you however many years/months ago.

Condescending is all relative. If you say schools in your neighborhood are "good", you immediately imply that schools in another neighborhood are "bad", as everything is measured relative to an average or median school. If a person from a said neighborhood were standing next to you, your comment would be "condescending".

Good luck going through life trying to make everyone feel happy. I'm just trying to help as many people as I can.

I'm not interested in making everyone happy. I'm not sure where you got this, either.

It's one thing to say "I went to a good school" and another to say "I went to a better school than you." You take the tone of the latter in almost everything you say on this matter. You can call it being honest, but its really arrogance on display. You can try to justify your tone all you want by putting people in to categories, but that's just not how things like this work.

Here's my story:
The school I go to might be above average or so. It's a liberal arts college that has a fairly old actuarial science program. The strength of the liberal arts program drew me here, among many other factors, and getting an actuarial science degree was what my VA (Veterans' Affairs) advisor told me I had to do to get my school paid for. Vocational rehabilitation doesn't cover things that don't work toward getting in to the field. I didn't have the leverage or anecdotal evidence needed to convince my VA advisor that I should be able to get an economic/mathematics/whatever degree and end up being an actuary. I know I could have gone the student loan route and paid for it that way, but, frankly, I wasn't in a position where I could justify taking on that much debt. And, on the surface of things, you see me with a 4.0 and an actuarial science degree and blindly pass judgement. How you don't see this as condescending is very telling. I truly hope you don't present yourself in this nature to people in a more professional setting.

[El hijo actuario]

Yay!! Go UConn. CAE. Number one on the SOA list.

[PhildeTruth]

Originally Posted by Scars

Basically, you wouldn't have hired you however many years/months ago.

Exactly. Wouldn't have even given myself a phone interview.

Originally Posted by Scars

I'm not interested in making everyone happy. I'm not sure where you got this, either.

It's one thing to say "I went to a good school" and another to say "I went to a better school than you." You take the tone of the latter in almost everything you say on this matter. You can call it being honest, but its really arrogance on display. You can try to justify your tone all you want by putting people in to categories, but that's just not how things like this work.

"I went to a good school" or "I went to a better school than you" are the same damn thing IMO. Especially if said person has an insecurity about where they went to school.

Originally Posted by Scars

Here's my story:
The school I go to might be above average or so. It's a liberal arts college that has a fairly old actuarial science program. The strength of the liberal arts program drew me here, among many other factors, and getting an actuarial science degree was what my VA (Veterans' Affairs) advisor told me I had to do to get my school paid for. Vocational rehabilitation doesn't cover things that don't work toward getting in to the field. I didn't have the leverage or anecdotal evidence needed to convince my VA advisor that I should be able to get an economic/mathematics/whatever degree and end up being an actuary. I know I could have gone the student loan route and paid for it that way, but, frankly, I wasn't in a position where I could justify taking on that much debt. And, on the surface of things, you see me with a 4.0 and an actuarial science degree and blindly pass judgement. How you don't see this as condescending is very telling. I truly hope you don't present yourself in this nature to people in a more professional setting.

Lebanon Valley College?

Why do you not see it as funny that you got a 4.0 in Actuarial Science? You yourself admit you were FORCED into the actuarial science major to get your school paid for. I see a 4.0 in Actuarial Science and I think, "he should have majored in something else". So you are an exception and not the rule. Congratulations.