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Old 04-26-2010, 07:34 PM
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An anal vibrator believed to be a bomb caused the California Highway Patrol to briefly evacuate its South Lake Tahoe area office on April 7.

The incident began about 4:30 a.m. when a California Highway Patrol officer contacted Hugh Kenneth Jass, Jr. 60, in a “No Parking” zone on Highway 89 near Luther Pass, according to a CHP report.

The officer arrested the man after allegedly finding what was believed to be methamphetamine.

During a subsequent search, officers found “a suspicious wire, with an on/off switch” in the man's front left pocket leading to his anal cavity, according to the report.

Officers planned to have the device removed by medical personnel at Barton Memorial Hospital, but during an interview with the man at the CHP office, “the subject began to explain his knowledge of explosives and bomb-making,” according to the report.

The man's statements caused officers to become suspicious. They contacted the El Dorado County Explosive Ordinance Disposal Team and evacuated the office around 5:45 a.m.

About 9 a.m., “the EOD team rendered the device safe and determined it was not an explosive device. The vibrator was subsequently removed and placed into property,” according to the report.

The man was booked into El Dorado County Jail in South Lake Tahoe on suspicion of possession of a controlled substance.
So. What say you?

About the basis for the search, then the strip-search, the arrest, and release of your mugshot and real name along with a story about things far beyond the basis of your arrest?

(I found an account stating that the no-parking zone was next to the sherriff's office, and I made up hugh jass's middle name)
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:26 AM
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I first read this story with the offender's real name in it. It has popped up around the blogosphere.

I was aghast that parking in the wrong place could end up with a strip-search, but perhaps the details of the story can justify it, from the terrorism booga homeland security angle.

But I really don't understand why it was necessary to release the pervy degenerate information that was unrelated to the reason the guy's name and mugshot were being released at all: arrest for "suspicion" of possession of meth. All to be broadcast nationwide. I don't know what is accomplished by this. I took the guy's name out of the text, and put hugh jass in there because of his "camera's everywhere" thread. It's by accident that his name has some relevance to the story.


Is no one else troubled by this? Authority figures are going to be searching your bags or person when you enter a subway system or concert. Often they are self-important bullies and power-trippers and have been known to lie about why they arrested someone (as in the cases where they claim the perp assaulted them and then video shows that they assaulted the perp, out of the blue in some cases). If you get arrested for not giving some cop his due deference and veneration, do you want some private embarrassing info they find on you broadcast across the country to a bunch of strangers on the internet, and worse, for the viewing/edification of people who know you or have known you in the past?

Doesn't Homeland Security want to encourage the public's cooperation instead of making them nervous about being searched for booga danger?

I may be naive, but this humiliation factor seems new. In the past, there have been no public announcements about this or that arrest happening in the presence of an unarrested female companion who was not the perps wife of 12 years. I personally knew a friend (no it wasn't me!) who was arrested in college for shoplifting, and it turned out the local paper had a policy of NOT publishing such news at all. All kinds of embarrassing information was kept private, and much of it still is.

What has changed? Internet? Laws?


Has this extra-humiliation already been accompanying driving-while-black arrests? Or possession of dime-bag arrests?

I feel really bad for the methhead.
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:56 AM
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why would they want that in propriety though?
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That's how naive I am. I don't understand your question or the expression "in propriety". Could you explain?
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my guess was "we are keeping this as evidence".
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Ah, OK.

Seems like nobody has thoughts on this story or any civil liberties police state angle...

Rickson?

Rickson?


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A number of thoughts on this issue, not all of them relevant...

The end game: The only solution I see is to allow everyone access to all of the information. Change the definition of privacy and the powers that be lose their power.

With regards to the original article in the OP:
- Parked illegally draws attention of cop
- Possession of meth allows search
- Search of pockets leads to wires up ass
- If the guy says at this point says "It's an anal vibrator I use it to get off." They would probably have let him remove it and deal with the drug possession charge. Dude didn't want to admit it and so the cops went down the path they had to go down.

I lean toward the all or nothing with publications of names and details of crimes, either do everyone or no one.

I remember back in the late 70's/early 80's the local cops/newspaper publishing the names of busted massage parlor johns purposely to reduce use of those parlors. THe modern form of the pillory.

We live in a TMZ society. If it is unseemly it is news. If it is far enough out of the norm it is to be ridiculed. I don't see this issue being driven by authorities but rather by those that make money off of misery.
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I remember back in the late 70's/early 80's the local cops/newspaper publishing the names of busted massage parlor johns purposely to reduce use of those parlors. THe modern form of the pillory.

We live in a TMZ society. If it is unseemly it is news. If it is far enough out of the norm it is to be ridiculed. I don't see this issue being driven by authorities but rather by those that make money off of misery and cruelty.
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btw, I think one account I read had the guy telling the cops what the thing was at some point.

I have never been approached by a cop for parking in the wrong place. I am still a little confused as to how it results in any sort of search that would lead to discovery of one's meth or dime bag. I would hope for the chance to simply move the car...


As to the johns arrested for being johns, I remember that as a campaign in which the press and police developed a policy together or something, and the private info itself was the crime, not some detail of the arrest extraneous to the charges. (and why "suspicion of possession" and not plain possession???)
I feel like a ninny for being disturbed by this, like one of those women crying before the senate that horses should not be made into food.

Thanks for your thoughts, Patrick.
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I wonder if this evidence can and will be used against him in the court of law.
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I wonder if this evidence can and will be used against him in the court of law.
he may ask for that.
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