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Old 12-09-2003, 07:35 AM
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http://msnbc.com/news/1002878.asp?0cv=CB10

Sorry, Joe. Just a ploy to get Hilary elected in 08.
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Old 12-09-2003, 02:28 PM
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Says Bush cousin John Ellis:

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It's a very shrewd move. Start with the least likely outcome. If Governor Dean defeats President Bush in 2004, Al Gore becomes Secretary of State or a Supreme Court Justice or whatever he wants, the day after the election is over. That's how much Dean will owe him.

If Dean loses, Gore will be the rightful heir to the Dean apparatus [,...]the only network that is capable of competing with and defeating the Clinton network, which it has by proxy in the Dean v. Clark competition. [...]It will be Gore's and Gore's alone on "the day after Dean goes down."

More important, by playing the role of uber-mentor to Dean's 2004 campaign, Gore can begin the process of reinventing himself and his candidacy for the 2008 campaign. [...]

And so the battle is joined; Gore vs. Clinton 2008 began on December 9th, 2003. It has been the subtext of the 2004 campaign to date. Now it's out in the open for all to see.
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Old 12-09-2003, 02:38 PM
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All I can say is, this is strong evidence that God is a Republican. Just about any Democrat in the field would have at least a fair chance to win, except for Dean. Howard Dean has staked himself so far wildly left that he is going to go completely Mondale on us when he gets murdered by GWB in '04.

Ya know what, if Dean wins the nomination, then the presidential election would become irrelevant, I'd no longer be worried about it as a pre-destined outcome, and instead would focus on Congress. Could the GOP be clever enough to turn a GWB stomping of this clown into a bloodbath in the Senate?
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Old 12-09-2003, 02:49 PM
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Doesn't have a chance? Won't amount to nothing?
That's what the GOP said about a young idealistic upstart out of Hope Arkansas a few years ago.
And she went on to represent the great state of New York.

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Homer: Heh heh, it does look like Al Gore.
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Old 12-09-2003, 03:00 PM
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Its simple political reality. A man who is on the record as speculating that Bush, who is enjoying a 60% popularity right now, knew about 9/11 ahead of time and did nothing to stop it, is NOT going to win. Do you really think that wont be on Bush commercials every month till election day? Dean's extreme left position means that he now does not have a chance at winning one single Southern state or more than 1 or 2 Midwest states. He would then have to practically sweep the east and west coasts, and that wont happen.

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"The most interesting theory that I've heard so far, which is nothing more than a theory … it can't be proved, is that [Bush] was warned ahead of time by the Saudis," Dean said in the interview. He did not elaborate.
Dean could not retreat fast enough when he was flat-out asked yesterday why he would say such a thing. Dean is a political walking dead man in November, the GOP is not about to publicise this yet and possibly ruin Dean's chances of winning the nomination, and the Democrats running for the nomination wont attack him here, because it would require them defending the president. As soon as Dean has the nomination safely sewn up, you will witness one heck of a hammer unleashed by Bush's enormous war chest.
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Its simple political reality. A man who is on the record as speculating that Bush, who is enjoying a 60% popularity right now, knew about 9/11 ahead of time and did nothing to stop it, is NOT going to win. Do you really think that wont be on Bush commercials every month till election day? Dean's extreme left position means that he now does not have a chance at winning one single Southern state or more than 1 or 2 Midwest states. He would then have to practically sweep the east and west coasts, and that wont happen.

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"The most interesting theory that I've heard so far, which is nothing more than a theory … it can't be proved, is that [Bush] was warned ahead of time by the Saudis," Dean said in the interview. He did not elaborate.
Dean could not retreat fast enough when he was flat-out asked yesterday why he would say such a thing. Dean is a political walking dead man in November, the GOP is not about to publicise this yet and possibly ruin Dean's chances of winning the noimnation, and the Democrats running for the nomination wont attack him here, because it would require them defending the president.
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Old 12-09-2003, 03:36 PM
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All I can say is, this is strong evidence that God is a Republican. Just about any Democrat in the field would have at least a fair chance to win, except for Dean. Howard Dean has staked himself so far wildly left that he is going to go completely Mondale on us when he gets murdered by GWB in '04.

Ya know what, if Dean wins the nomination, then the presidential election would become irrelevant, I'd no longer be worried about it as a pre-destined outcome, and instead would focus on Congress. Could the GOP be clever enough to turn a GWB stomping of this clown into a bloodbath in the Senate?
I hope you remember saying this after time passes. No changing you name either, so we can't make fun of you.
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... Bush, who is enjoying a 60% popularity right now,
I think not

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Bush Job Performance
Positive %
Negative %

December 4-6, 2003
49
51

November 3-5, 2003
48
52

October 15-18, 2003
49
51

September 22-24, 2003
50
49

September 3-5, 2003
45
54

August 2003
52
48

July 2003
53
46

March 2003
54
45

September 2002
64
36

September 2001
82
17

August 2001
50
49

January 2001
42
36
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Now we know! Dean was selected, not elected.
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