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Old 01-06-2004, 10:13 AM
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Is anybody else feeling nervous about the new tracking system in place at american borders? At first observation it appears to be an excellent idea. It might work just dandy. My fear is that it will work so well, or at least be claimed to be working so well, that the process will be extended to all of us. If I have nothing to hide I have nothing to fear, right? Except that it would be an invasion of my privacy.
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:18 AM
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I never cease to find your level of paranoia most amusing.
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:35 AM
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Right now they're implementing fingerprint scanning for about 2 dozen countries. I understood that they are planning on eventually implementing this for all countries. When they do, it will be a serious roadblock. I really have no intention of being fingerprinted, no more shopping trips to Buffalo for me.
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:40 AM
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They've been tracking you for YEARS using those strips in the dollar bills....soooooo relaxxxxxx.

I'd be surprised if they ever extended this to Canadians. People from Minnesota...yes...but Canadians?
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:41 AM
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Right now they're implementing fingerprint scanning for about 2 dozen countries. I understood that they are planning on eventually implementing this for all countries. When they do, it will be a serious roadblock. I really have no intention of being fingerprinted, no more shopping trips to Buffalo for me.
What do you have to hide?
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:45 AM
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Glenn ... worry not. Canada is subject to special immigration rules, and is exempt from the fingerprinting/photographing requirements in the law. Once the full force of the law is in effect, I believe there are only abotu 25 nations in total that are exempt, mostly Western Europe and Canada.
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:46 AM
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Just to back it up ...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ingerprints_dc

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Tourists and business travelers on short visits from 27 mostly European nations are exempt from the new measures, as are Canadians, who fall under special immigration rules.
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Isn't Canada in Western Europe?
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As long as you don't mind being fingerprinted when you go for a visit overseas. I am shorting tourism stocks as foreign visits to the US will decrease alot over the next few years.
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Old 01-06-2004, 11:47 AM
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So, you have no problem having every transaction you've ever made with a credit card stored somewhere, ...
It depends upon who has access to the information. Last I checked, VISA has no power to harass me, halt my physical movements, steal my property, demonize me, shoot me, or imprison me. States have all of these powers, so I am loathe to give them ANY information about myself or my activities. In just my own lifetime, the gradual but steady loss of privacy has been enormous and alarming. I remain old school American. Your personal information is YOUR property, and you should be in sole control of access to it. If this supposedly gets in the way of wars on tactics; tough.

My impression is that most of the frogs on this forum have been slowly cooking in the pot of subservience for so long they simply aren't aware that the waters are boiling. Jump out of the pot. NOW!!
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