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Old 05-11-2011, 06:15 PM
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I would. He's the known head of a force at war with us, and capable of doing further damage as long as he lives. It's not something I'm particularly HAPPY with, but I'm okay with it. It's not a crime requiring a jury trial, it's an act of war he committed.
But are you OK with, waterboarding the known #2 Al Qaeda person who is known to have had contact with OBL, who refuses to speak under any other interrogation technique (including, but not limited to, sugar cookies)?
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Some here have basically said, "We should never waterboard. But it was OK to shoot OBL in the head." I see that as inconsistent.
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Imagine, women or black people being allowed to vote...Do you have a true understanding of the sentience of whales and dolphins? I'm not saying there's enough there, but I am saying that none of us really knows how much is there, nor can any see the future well enough to guarantee that voting rights for whales and dolphins will never happen.
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I would. He's the known head of a force at war with us, and capable of doing further damage as long as he lives. It's not something I'm particularly HAPPY with, but I'm okay with it. It's not a crime requiring a jury trial, it's an act of war he committed.
He may have committed, right? I guess without a trial it's easier to know he was guilty.
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If Bin Laden said, "Please take me prisoner, just don't kill me!" Would you be ok with killing him?
It would depend on the circumstances. If he were unarmed, alone, and in the US, I would absolutely not be okay with killing him. Under the actual circumstances (lots of allies, known and probably unknown weapons around, and the risk of the Pakistani army showing up at any minute) I am not too upset that our soldiers killed him.

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Good thing we will never have to worry about that since the video of the operation won't be seen by anyone. I bet he cried and begged like a little bitch before they killed him.
Why on earth do you believe that?
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He may have committed, right? I guess without a trial it's easier to know he was guilty.
Do you think that there would have been any more certainty if we had conducted a trial? I don't.
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Do you think that there would have been any more certainty if we had conducted a trial? I don't.
Yes. Of course I do.
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Do you think that there would have been any more certainty if we had conducted a trial? I don't.
Trials are no longer necessary?
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Trials are no longer necessary?
I didn't say that. I did imply that in this case, a trial would not have increased anyone's certainty as to bin Laden's role in the terrorist attacks.

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