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Old 05-11-2011, 10:34 PM
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I can get behind limiting its use, just like I can get behind saying we should almost never issue a "shoot to kill" order.

I thought the "hundreds" claim was shown to be quite exaggerated, but in any case that isn't my point. Some here have basically said, "We should never waterboard. But it was OK to shoot OBL in the head." I see that as inconsistent.
Why? I would say the use of torture is obviously worse than "shoot to kill" orders, because to be effective at all, torture has to be worse than death.
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:55 PM
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Why? I would say the use of torture is obviously worse than "shoot to kill" orders, because to be effective at all, torture has to be worse than death.
He still hasn't grasped the difference between a handcuffed prisoner and a possibly armed and resisting mass murderer hiding out for years.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:45 AM
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He still hasn't grasped the difference between a handcuffed prisoner and a possibly armed and resisting mass murderer hiding out for years.
Actually, I know exactly what both situations are.
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Imagine, women or black people being allowed to vote...Do you have a true understanding of the sentience of whales and dolphins? I'm not saying there's enough there, but I am saying that none of us really knows how much is there, nor can any see the future well enough to guarantee that voting rights for whales and dolphins will never happen.
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:10 AM
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Actually, I know exactly what both situations are.
That's obvious.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:57 AM
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He still hasn't grasped the difference between a handcuffed prisoner and a possibly armed and resisting mass murderer hiding out for years.


Lets blow the heads off anyone that is possibly armed.

Oh and resisting was also something Harry imagined.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:59 AM
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I didn't say that. I did imply that in this case, a trial would not have increased anyone's certainty as to bin Laden's role in the terrorist attacks.

You can take that any way you want.
Trials are no longer necessary.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:08 AM
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He still hasn't grasped the difference between a handcuffed prisoner and a possibly armed and resisting mass murderer hiding out for years.
Osama was going to pull a 747 out of his pocket and launch it at the Sears tower?
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:05 AM
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Poor Osama.

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WASHINGTON – Though hunted and in hiding, Osama bin Laden remained the driving force behind every recent al-Qaida terror plot, U.S. officials say, citing his private journal and other documents recovered in last week's raid.

Until Navy SEALs killed him a week ago, bin Laden dispensed chilling advice to the leaders of al-Qaida groups from Yemen to London: Hit Los Angeles, not just New York, he wrote. Target trains as well as planes. If possible, strike on significant dates, such as the Fourth of July and the upcoming 10th anniversary of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Above all, he urged, kill more Americans in a single attack, to drive them from the Arab world.

Bin Laden's written words show that counterterrorist officials worldwide underestimated how key he remained to running the organization, shattering the conventional thinking that he had been reduced through isolation to being an inspirational figurehead, U.S. officials said Wednesday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110512/...s/us_bin_laden
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:09 AM
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I hope no one comes to kill me over things I wrote in my journal.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:22 AM
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The same US officials that just blew his head off without a trial confirmed he was bad? Shocking revelation. Thanks for the update!
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