bidding question

[bill18]

partner opens 1 club in first seat , the enemy overcalls 1 spade. you have s-xx,h-KQJ765,d-xxx,c-Q2

what is you bid in standard methods? pass wait for partner to reopen, 2 hearts, negative double??

[Numbers Nerd]

Make a negative double, and then bid hearts if convenient (through 3H). That sequence shows fewer than 10 points, and long hearts, so is perfect.

While a slight stretch, 2H would barely be ok (followed by a rebid of 3H), given that your suit is so good and your queen is in your partner's suit.

If you pass and later back in with hearts, you show a worse hand than this.

[Sweet Tooth]

Excellent analysis and response. I would add that some play a convention called 'negative free bids' wherein you can show a modest hand with long suit and the 2H bid would be passable. With a truly strong (game forcing) hand, you must double first, then bid hearts. The downside, of course, is that you haven't made a natural call (your suit) at yourt first turn and preemption by the opponents may force you to decide if you first want to show your suit at a much higher level, or double for penalties. I only play this with one partner (playing Precision) and then only at her preference. In standard, a 2/1 bid in competition is forcing for one round, but not necessarily to game, so you can divide the (biddable) hand qualities a bit more finely, i.e. into 3 buckets (minimal, 2/1NFG, 2/1FG)instead of 2, reducing the need for NFB.

Originally Posted by Numbers Nerd

Make a negative double, and then bid hearts if convenient (through 3H). That sequence shows fewer than 10 points, and long hearts, so is perfect.

While a slight stretch, 2H would barely be ok (followed by a rebid of 3H), given that your suit is so good and your queen is in your partner's suit.

If you pass and later back in with hearts, you show a worse hand than this.