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Old 09-29-2011, 02:32 PM
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Those who use marijuana legally in accordance with their state's laws cannot be sold or possess firearms, according to a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) memo issued on September 21.

The memo to gun dealers in the United States, obtained by the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), stated that it was illegal under federal law to sell firearms to anyone reasonably suspected of using a controlled substance.

The use of medical marijuana has been legalized in 16 states and the District of Columbia, but marijuana is currently a Schedule I drug under the federal Control Substances Act. Schedule I is the most restrictive classification, reserved drugs with a high potential for abuse and no accepted medicinal value.

"Therefore, any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use of medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance, and is prohibited by Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition," the memo said.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/2...juana-legally/

This should prevent all those stoner shootouts we keep hearing about.
Luckily only the mellow drunks will have guns now.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:35 PM
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As much as I disagree with MJ being illegal at all at any level, this actually makes sense since MJ is a controlled substance at the federal level.

I agree with the point you make by juxtaposing MJ and alcohol too.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:36 PM
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It makes no sense at all....
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:39 PM
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It makes no sense at all....
Do you disagree with something I posted?

MJ is illegal at federal level. Federal law stipulates that anyone who uses a controlled substance (which is defined at the federal level) cannot obtain a firearm legally.

GIVEN THAT those are both federal laws, it makes sense.

If you want to debate whether it makes sense for those laws to exist at the federal level, that is different. I would agree that they shouldn't be federal laws.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:39 PM
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As much as I disagree with MJ being illegal at all at any level, this actually makes sense since MJ is a controlled substance at the federal level.

I agree with the point you make by juxtaposing MJ and alcohol too.
So if I use lortab then I'm not allowed to buy a gun? And that makes sense to you?
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When are they going to stop this nonsense? The Feds have lost the drug war, and not by some slim margin. The WoD has been an adject failure for decades. It did nothing to deter cannabis consumption, instead driving production indoors where it was hybridized, grown under ideal conditions, and the end product became stronger, more widely available for consumption, and arguably more habit-forming.

Did I mention the proliferation of no-knock warrants and asset forfeiture?

The question we need to be asking is not "should potheads be able to own firearms?" No, we need to ask "why is the government so stubbornly addicted to this futile war? What do they have to gain from pot being illegal?"
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Read my other post in this thread.
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When are they going to stop this nonsense? The Feds have lost the drug war, and not by some slim margin. The WoD has been an adject failure for decades. It did nothing to deter cannabis consumption, instead driving production indoors where it was hybridized, grown under ideal conditions, and the end product became stronger and more habit-forming.

Did I mention the proliferation of no-knock warrants and asset forfeiture?

The question we need to be asking is not "should potheads be able to own firearms?" No, we need to ask "why is the government so stubbornly addicted to this futile war? What do they have to gain from pot being illegal?"
The War on Drugs and all the attendant law enforcement entities are convenient places for all the soldiers back from the War on Terror to wind up.
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The War on Drugs and all the attendant law enforcement entities are convenient places for all the soldiers back from the War on Terror to wind up.
Let me know when all those soldiers are back.
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They come back periodically. New ones are sent. Just because the total number stays the same doesn't mean it is the same ones over there continuously.
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