Occupy Wall Street

[The Right]

Originally Posted by tenthring

lol at the liberal freak out over their protest being too white. Because what we really need to be worried about when fighting banksters if filling diversity quotas.

Yea...wait, what?

[Jay K]

Originally Posted by soyleche

As others have said - if it isn't sustainable then it won't be sustained.

The other thing to think about is why are the costs skyrocketing. What needs to change to get them under control.


Probably not a bad result. A lot of college students shouldn't be there, but they've been convinced (as have the rest of us) that they'll never be able to succeed without a college education. If we can break out of that mindset it would help in controling the costs a lot.

The fact that more people are attending college than really should be tells me that it is probably underpriced - or at least perceived to be at point of sale. Getting the government out of the equation would help bring that perception back in line with reality a bit by making the banks a more cautious when loaning out the $.

This is a rationale answer looking at it from a narrow cost perspective. However, do you think that the overall economy would be better off with a lower percentage of college graduates?

[Jay K]

Originally Posted by TheGillotine

This is like saying the mafia is owned by the businesses that pay them to eliminate their competition.

I don't understand the logic.

Do you really think that politicians have more wealth and live a better lifestyle than Wall Street? A lot of politicians after they "retire" go work as lobbyists where they get paid for their subservience.

[Baron Von Raschke]

Originally Posted by Jay K

A better analogy is like the rising cost of health care being unsustainable. In the employer provided market, the employers are shifting the costs more and more to the employee. In the private market, people who cannot afford insurance are forced to take their chances without healthcare.

For higher ed, as the costs increase a large portion will make the decision to not attend college as the wages afterward are not enough to pay back the college debt. Is this the society that we want?

You mean a society where people make smarter decisions? I say yes.

[soyleche]

Originally Posted by Jay K

This is a rationale answer looking at it from a narrow cost perspective. However, do you think that the overall economy would be better off with a lower percentage of college graduates?

It would be better off with a lower % of college dropouts and a lower % of college graduates. In other words, if those who are going to drop out (plus a couple others) try a different path from the get-go.

[TheGillotine]

Originally Posted by Jay K

I don't understand the logic.

Do you really think that politicians have more wealth and live a better lifestyle than Wall Street? A lot of politicians after they "retire" go work as lobbyists where they get paid for their subservience.

Do you really think that businessmen and bankers have more power than the U.S. government?

[Jay K]

Originally Posted by TheGillotine

Do you really think that businessmen and bankers have more power than the U.S. government?

I think that Wall Street has been able to get pretty much whatever it wants from the U.S. government. From hedge fund tax loopholes, to bailouts, to deregulation of derivatives, to the lowering of capital gains taxes, etc.

You may be able to find a small thing here or there (such as Dodd-Frank) that they whined about, but they have gotten if not 100% of what they wanted, then 99%.

Again, they are doing just fine. Not sure that they need much sympathy.

[win diesel]

Originally Posted by Guerilla poster

I was not pointing fingers, just saying the guy who voluntarily sits out the game, has less right to complain about a loss, than the guy who was in the game and errantly throws balls into the ground from the outfield

lol nice avatar! I was actually going to be you yesterday... but I tried adding it and it says wrong jpeg extension or something...I fooked it up

[TheGillotine]

Originally Posted by Jay K

I think that Wall Street has been able to get pretty much whatever it wants from the U.S. government. From hedge fund tax loopholes, to bailouts, to deregulation of derivatives, to the lowering of capital gains taxes, etc.

You may be able to find a small thing here or there (such as Dodd-Frank) that they whined about, but they have gotten if not 100% of what they wanted, then 99%.

Again, they are doing just fine. Not sure that they need much sympathy.

I'm not saying they deserve sympathy, but if we're going to complain, let's complain about the right thing. I think people who go to Wall Street to complain about the government taking their money and giving it to bankers are missing something. Let's address the violence inherent in the system.

[notreallyme]

Originally Posted by mlschop

So this is basically a pro-communist movement, right? I'll admit I'm pretty dumb with these things, but I don't get hatred toward "corporate greed."

Corporations shouldn't have income? They don't have shareholders they need to create earnings for? And the people that run these companies should all take paycuts to help the "99%?" Sounds very anti-capitalism to me.

Seriously?

The banks aren't making money they are taking money. People don't get this?

I haven't seen any protests at Apple, it's directed at the Corporations that are playing shell games.