What IYO opinion accounts for the "bamboo ceiling"?

[Colymbosathon ecplecticos]

Originally Posted by Uggie

All we're trying to say is - if a very bright, hard-working Asian person is not moving forward in their career - it may not be because they are Asian. It might be because they lack a certain skillet.

I think they are called woks.

[ao fan]

Originally Posted by Uggie

All we're trying to say is - if a very bright, hard-working Asian person is not moving forward in their career - it may not be because they are Asian. It might be because they lack a certain skillet. And, blaming their lack of career growth on being Asian is counter-productive and offensive.

or it could be because they pile the work on to the bright, hard-working asian because they are one of the only really capable people in the company and give the "soft skills" managerial jobs to the less competent people because they can't handle the real work. i've seen this happen. i've seen less competent people managing the bright, hard-working asian even though i'm pretty sure that the asian probably would have been a better manager in the end. really depends on the company.

it probably isn't because they are asian though, but more because they don't speak up and it's easy to take advantage of the fact that they are hard-working. that doesn't mean they can't be good managers though.

[Uggie]

That's true. But, I think focusing on the "Asian" aspect is distracting from the real problem.

[ao fan]

Originally Posted by Uggie

That's true. But, I think focusing on the "Asian" aspect is distracting from the real problem.

yeah, most likely.

[SamCook]

Originally Posted by SamCook View Post
Racism from the poster who claims Asians sacrifice more for the team and are therefore superior to lazy Americans.

Originally Posted by Colonel Smoothie

All of you need to take a logic class.

The word racism was quoting you where you claimed there was rampant racism against asians. My point is that it is hypocritical to call racism and then in the same sentence describe asians as better then everyone else.

[SamCook]

Originally Posted by ditkaworshipper

I have to congratulate you on your excellent trolling in this thread. A+ work. I have to hand it to you Asians...you set out to do something, you do it right.

Probably not trolling just delusional

[xiaofan4]

The bamboo ceiling exists because too many pandas in China, aka land of bamboo, go to panda heaven. When pandas go to heaven, the bamboo they leave behind gets shipped to the US for making ceilings. If more pandas survived, the bamboo ceiling would not be a problem. This is why the problem exists today. Thank you everybody.

[oblivious]

Really?

Those posts were removed? CS's posts are pretty ignorant. I hope they don't get removed though, kind of like how I was against some of anny's posts being removed. People should get a chance to see a poster's true colors.

[ao fan]

Originally Posted by oblivious

Really?

Those posts were removed? CS's posts are pretty ignorant. I hope they don't get removed though, kind of like how I was against some of anny's posts being removed. People should get a chance to see a poster's true colors.

I don't remember what was in the removed posts. Did someone insult CS directly? Mods don't like that.

CS's comparing Asian issues now to what blacks experienced in the 50's seems ridiculous, but most people are naturallly going to think their issues are the worst, so i'm not sure it's really that terrible to say. everyone is self centered.

[hjacjswo]

Originally Posted by ao fan

I don't remember what was in the removed posts. Did someone insult CS directly? Mods don't like that.

CS's comparing Asian issues now to what blacks experienced in the 50's seems ridiculous, but most people are naturallly going to think their issues are the worst, so i'm not sure it's really that terrible to say. everyone is self centered.

Yeah, teh bolded part is true. But, I think he was making a comparison. yeah, it was probably exagerated, since there is no blatant and violent 'in your face' racism nowadays. But, as an Asian American, who didn't grow up in Cali, I've faced pretty outward racism. I've been called names, ranging from Jackie Chan to chink and gook, and have been messed with only because I was Asian (I guess I did live in a ghetto neighborhood). Of course, now that I hang out with adults and more of professional crowds, I rarely see this.

And I think it's time to let this thread go. I think we reached a conclusion that as long as you have good business and soft skills, you will be successful, even though you will suffer a little from the stereotype.