Once Upon A Time

[DyalDragon]

Originally Posted by Anthemyst

Ohhhh...yeah, I could have easily missed that. Wow, you'd think he could find a less roundabout way of evicting everybody, but I guess he has plenty of time and a long list of enemies to work through.

Did we ever find out how he got out of jail after that kidnapping and battery? I don't remember it ever being addressed again, but you'd think there would be consequences that last longer than the last five minutes of one episode.

He probably just asked the mayor to 'Please' fix the problem for him....

[Agadefe]

Originally Posted by Anthemyst

Hmm. Maybe I would've liked the fairy tale world story if it had been told in a less, "Here, have some exposition, now let's move you from plot point to plot point as quickly as possible" manner. It was definitely an original spin on things, and there are some seriously creepy implications. Not quite "House elves in Harry Potter" creepy, but close. In better hands, it might've been really interesting. I guess there's still hope for the episode where we find out how the eight dwarves go from mining to living in the woods to Sneaky breaking Grumpy out of prison.

Yeah, that was the 'best' part about it. It makes them living in the woods together and helping Snow White seem like they are 'breaking free' and finding their individuality, as opposed to '7 small men help hot woman who isn't interested in them get together with the guy she really likes'.

I actually thought that this episode would end with Grumpy not being able to get free for some reason, the other dwarves helping him, him still not getting to the fairy in time, and the dwarves and him starting a life together in the woods. That would have made more sense rather than "I am leaving you so you can be happy".

[Anthemyst]

So this week was better. I liked the twist and the significance of the iconic red riding hood, but I was blown away by how stupid it was that the grandmother never told Red the truth. Seriously, she valuves keeping her granddaughter from experiencing some very dubious guilt over the lives of what, a dozen men? Unbelievable.

[Agadefe]

Originally Posted by Anthemyst

So this week was better. I liked the twist and the significance of the iconic red riding hood, but I was blown away by how stupid it was that the grandmother never told Red the truth. Seriously, she valuves keeping her granddaughter from experiencing some very dubious guilt over the lives of what, a dozen men? Unbelievable.

Agree basically 100% on all counts.

Really stupid of the grandmother. That was the first thing I said after it ended. To the point where it really bothered me how easily it could have been prevented. Or, even easier, grandmother could have just sat up all night in Red's room and made sure she wore the hood (she was up all night anyway, wasn't she?). She was already super-controlling so it wouldn't have been entirely out of character.

But yeah, telling her the truth also seems pretty obvious. Kind of annoying. I do hope that Red does more with her wolf-form though in future story-lines (especially now that she and Charming are on the run together).

Overall though, I really liked this episode. Both twists 'got me'. I thought the grandma would be the wolf in fairytale land and I didn't see Mary Margeret fingerprints being on the box. Red's character was pretty well done too in both worlds. Big fan of hers. Plus I find her quite attractive, in the fairy tale world more so than the real-life world.

[Agadefe]

Originally Posted by Anthemyst

So this week was better. I liked the twist and the significance of the iconic red riding hood, but I was blown away by how stupid it was that the grandmother never told Red the truth. Seriously, she valuves keeping her granddaughter from experiencing some very dubious guilt over the lives of what, a dozen men? Unbelievable.

Also, did you find any meaning to the 'living with lemurs' thing?

I searched August von Haxthausen lemur and Hans Christen Anderson lemur and Grimm lemur without any hits.

[Anthemyst]

Originally Posted by Agadefe

Also, did you find any meaning to the 'living with lemurs' thing?

I searched August von Haxthausen lemur and Hans Christen Anderson lemur and Grimm lemur without any hits.

It honestly did not occur to me that there might be any hidden significance. Buddhist temples seem like the lazy go-to for shallow, pretentious "living life to the fullest" locations. Not that Buddhism is shallow by any means, just the media's treatment of it.

My exact reaction was, "Oh, just like the flying lemurs in Avatar!" because that is the kind of nerd I am.

[Anthemyst]

Oh, I had kind of a theory yesterday. Not much of one, I was just thinking about how Belle was in the Dreamy/Grumpy episode for ten seconds for no apparent reason whatsoever, and at the time I couldn't really think of any reason for her to be brought back to deliver five lines that just about any throwaway character could've given. I also couldn't really place where in her story she would've been hanging out with dwarves mining fairy dust. And then I remembered how vehemently Rumplestiltskin hates all fairies, picking on them when they're nuns in the real world, killing Cinderella's fairy godmother with some vague line about her not really being good that I forget because I dismissed it at the time and assumed killing her was just about getting the wand. Anyway, what if Belle's fairy-tale world story isn't over and something else terrible happens to her, caused by the fairies? Maybe she makes a wish that goes horribly horribly wrong, I don't know. I only really care because this would mean a sequel to what has so far been the best episode of the series, so I'm optimistic.

[SirVLCIV]

I gave up on this show after like 4 episodes.

[mlschop]

Originally Posted by SirVLCIV

I gave up on this show after like 4 episodes.

and ditto...

[Agadefe]

Originally Posted by Anthemyst

Oh, I had kind of a theory yesterday. Not much of one, I was just thinking about how Belle was in the Dreamy/Grumpy episode for ten seconds for no apparent reason whatsoever, and at the time I couldn't really think of any reason for her to be brought back to deliver five lines that just about any throwaway character could've given. I also couldn't really place where in her story she would've been hanging out with dwarves mining fairy dust. And then I remembered how vehemently Rumplestiltskin hates all fairies, picking on them when they're nuns in the real world, killing Cinderella's fairy godmother with some vague line about her not really being good that I forget because I dismissed it at the time and assumed killing her was just about getting the wand. Anyway, what if Belle's fairy-tale world story isn't over and something else terrible happens to her, caused by the fairies? Maybe she makes a wish that goes horribly horribly wrong, I don't know. I only really care because this would mean a sequel to what has so far been the best episode of the series, so I'm optimistic.

Oh interesting. I just assumed that it was to show that Belle was, in fact, alive in the fairy tale world. Make it more obvious that she wasn't dead in fairy and alive in real, but in fact alive in both (since her lines make it sound like it was already post-running away).

I could see you being right though. At the very least, I'd like to see what caused the Rumple-fairy fued. Next week's episode looks like it might have a bit more Rumple in it than the previous two, so I'm pretty excited.