god's failure?

[A Blind Squirrel]

As for the actual point in the OP.

God is 'perfect', but never claims to be fair. He says gay sex is sin, yet makes people gay. Sucks for the gay person, but he can never have sex if he wants to abide by the word of God. God never claimed that he gives everyone equal chance at salvation or that he doesn't test some more than others (see: Job).

[glassjaws]

Originally Posted by vividox

So why could people talk to God 2,000 years ago and not today? What severed the link there? Isn't it more than a little convenient that scientific advancement and progressed understanding of the phenomenons in our world are directly correlated with the decline of man's ability to directly speak with God?

This assumes that there is a god to speak to and that at some point people were able to. Neither of which really fit my worldview.

[abt5]

This thread had a good start. But its trending into something rather familiar

[vividox]

Originally Posted by glassjaws

This assumes that there is a god to speak to and that at some point people were able to. Neither of which really fit my worldview.

And boom goes the dynamite.

[glassjaws]

Originally Posted by A Blind Squirrel

As for the actual point in the OP.

God is 'perfect', but never claims to be fair. He says gay sex is sin, yet makes people gay. Sucks for the gay person, but he can never have sex if he wants to abide by the word of God. God never claimed that he gives everyone equal chance at salvation or that he doesn't test some more than others (see: Job).

So why is god great if he sets people up to fail? I don't get it.

[ao fan]

Originally Posted by A Blind Squirrel

As for the actual point in the OP.

God is 'perfect', but never claims to be fair. He says gay sex is sin, yet makes people gay. Sucks for the gay person, but he can never have sex if he wants to abide by the word of God. God never claimed that he gives everyone equal chance at salvation or that he doesn't test some more than others (see: Job).

he makes some people too ugly to find someone to have sex with too. the gays are lucky. they just need to sin in order to have sex, unless they are both ugly and gay.

[A Blind Squirrel]

Originally Posted by vividox

So why could people talk to God 2,000 years ago and not today? What severed the link there? Isn't it more than a little convenient that scientific advancement and progressed understanding of the phenomenons in our world are directly correlated with the decline of man's ability to directly speak with God or witness miracles?

Possibly because 2,000 years ago, God felt a need to come down and say something, and now he doesn't.

Alternatively, because God's power isn't actually limitless, it is only limitless in our eyes, and he simply cannot touch our world anymore.

Alternatively, because time works differently for God and he sees all time lines at once, so in his mind he has already told us something once in our life, so why do it again.

Alternatively, he is here now in the form of Tim Tebow.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Anthemyst

I'm guessing two and zero?

If this is the case, why do some people compare gays to molesters?

Apparently, god hates the gays but not the molesters.

[ao fan]

Originally Posted by A Blind Squirrel

Possibly because 2,000 years ago, God felt a need to come down and say something, and now he doesn't.

Alternatively, because God's power isn't actually limitless, it is only limitless in our eyes, and he simply cannot touch our world anymore.

Alternatively, because time works differently for God and he sees all time lines at once, so in his mind he has already told us something once in our life, so why do it again.

Alternatively, he is here now in the form of Tim Tebow.

so, how do we know that those who thought they were talking to god 2000 years ago weren't just all suffering from mental illness?

[A Blind Squirrel]

Originally Posted by glassjaws

So why is god great if he sets people up to fail? I don't get it.

He doesn't set them up to fail, he tests them more than he tests others. And even if they fail, they often can still find redemption eventually.

Originally Posted by ao fan

he makes some people too ugly to find someone to have sex with too. the gays are lucky. they just need to sin in order to have sex, unless they are both ugly and gay.

Sure. Perhaps the ugly are really the lucky ones.