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Old 03-28-2012, 10:04 PM
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responses to this should be interesting
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:05 PM
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The injury stuff is hard to ascertain from that video, but he certainly looks more fit than was previously assumed. Not sure how much that matters
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:07 PM
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Those cops should layoff the donuts though imo. There are athletic 6'3" football player thug burglars they need to chase down
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:08 AM
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The injury stuff is hard to ascertain from that video, but he certainly looks more fit than was previously assumed. Not sure how much that matters
While bleeding may have been stopped, didn't Zimmerman say that Martin was bashing his head against the ground? Surely that would have caused cuts or scratches on his shaved head.
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:41 AM
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Why isn't Trayvon presumed innocent?
Did they arrest his dead body? He is presumed innocent by the law. They are both presumed innocent and neither one has been arrested.
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Oops, I guess this is why the police didn't take pictures of GZ's injuries...there weren't any. And not exactly the fat helpless load some people have been arguing.
Just because you can't see them in this video doesn't mean they aren't there. I've read stories that said he didn't get medical treatment that night, but did go to the hospital the next day. Medical records would exist if that were the case.

Of course, a conspiracist might claim Zimmerman could have injured himself after leaving police custody that day, to help his claim of self-defense. But if that were the case, why would the injuries be noted in the police report? The police would have to be in on the conspiracy as well. Which seems unlikely to me.

Also, I would suspect a doctor would be able to determine roughly how long ago cuts and bruises happened. Or maybe that's just TV doctors who can do stuff like that.
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:15 AM
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The facts show an overzealous citizen following and shooting an unarmed black kid, while muttering a racial epithet 1 minute prior. There is no evidence that Martin hit GZ first. Presumption of innocence is for the trial. The witnesses and evidence will be judged by a jury. Why isn't Trayvon presumed innocent? SO GZ may or may not have injuries (we have no pictures, he wasn't treated by a doctor, etc.).
Objection: The facts don't show that Zimmerman was overzealous. Council is drawing a conclusion.

Objection: The facts don't show Zimmerman used a racial epithet. Both sides have produced witnesses who listened to the tape, some who heard a racist word, others who heard something else.

Objection: Zimmerman was treated for injuries the next day. Medical records of those treatments must exist, although I don't know about pictures. If he's got a good lawyer, and I'll bet he does since his father is a judge, I'm sure he's got lots of pictures of the injuries.
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:28 AM
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If two people get in a fight and each said the other started it, does anyone get arrested in the he said/ he said? Or do they both get the benefit of presumption of innocence?
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:29 AM
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Are there actually people in this forum who would defend or justify the bounty? Seems like a straw man, to me.
There are actually people on this forum who don't have a problem with it. Actions have consequences.
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Objection: The facts don't show that Zimmerman was overzealous. Council is drawing a conclusion.

Objection: The facts don't show Zimmerman used a racial epithet. Both sides have produced witnesses who listened to the tape, some who heard a racist word, others who heard something else.

Objection: Zimmerman was treated for injuries the next day. Medical records of those treatments must exist, although I don't know about pictures. If he's got a good lawyer, and I'll bet he does since his father is a judge, I'm sure he's got lots of pictures of the injuries.
Judge: Prosecution is doing nothing more the speculate on everything under the sun. Case dismissed.
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